jon benet.....do you think he was the killer?

[daima]

I'm sure that's precisely why he made that confession, Daima. To get out of Thailand. They did a really sad piece last night on CNN, I believe it was, about what a haven that place is for pedophiles, among other things. Made me sick at my stomach. I want to know why the government there isn't doing more to stem the child sex trade. I suppose there's corruption at all levels. I know the sex trade in general is a huge industry in Thailand.

My sweet lady,
it's definately a crooked piece of time that we live in. I think our government(usa) is more interested in ruining the lives of our sick who use cannabis medicinally. Pedophiles who kill just arent on the radar screen. Protecting corporate americas wealth comes first young lady. Where on earth is your sense of patriotism?

dai*ma:stoned:
Here's a little mind poem for you.

The music stopped
I was left with myself
silent
it didnt give me pleasure
this time
recessive creativity
why do i analyze
every little thing
can i not stop
my minds laboratory

I desire to start anew
turning the record over
going from 78 to 33 1/3
turn me off for a while
solutions lay in test tubes
speculation

No warning
static pervades any time
anticipation agitation
comfort comes from within
experiment proposal
synthesis
accepted and boxed
in love trusting

I kiss the image
as my head
was chopped
let in the externals
delight in all
i rest control
totality unfolds
i cant fall

[daima]

It may not make it right, but it sure as hell would make me feel better.

i honestly believe that i know how you feel. you seem to be very honest with your feelings, and i dont think that any person has a right to hold that against you.:thumbsup:

dai*ma

[daima]

I don't know if I would kill someone like that... I may want to... but it doesn't make it right. There is too much killing in the world as it is. It depresses me to know that it goes on all the time, to no end. It fills me with a rage to where I feel the need to destroy the scum of the Earth that would commit such horrible crimes against humanity. Maybe they can be rehabilitated. Maybe they can't. It doesn't change or heal the scar that they inflicted upon the lives of the family of their victim.

reflection is a wonderful thing. be proud.

dai*ma:stoned: sfca

[Skink]

if the mother and father did not kill that little girl they should of still got strung up for dressing and parading their little girl like a slut...

I Remembere when it happen,,, I was more than appaulled looking at all the pictures on Tv... Kids need to be home safe playing with there dolls and their Betty Crocker ovens,not parading like a tart... God those pictures everyday and the whole story was just sickening to watch...

God delt with the Mom,,, thank God...

[Euphoric]

I havent read anything about this stuff. So I dont really know anything besides my gut feeling on this one.
My intuition says the dude who confessed is just insane. Depressed, wants to die probably...why not be famous while your at it, say you murdered someone who was all over the news? My vote: hes a poser, he didnt kill her. He wants some fame and an easy ticket to the electric chair. Might as well give him his wish, doesnt look like the real killer is going to be found anyways. But what do i know

[zephyrinne]

if the mother and father did not kill that little girl they should of still got strung up for dressing and parading their little girl like a slut...

I Remembere when it happen,,, I was more than appaulled looking at all the pictures on Tv... Kids need to be home safe playing with there dolls and their Betty Crocker ovens,not parading like a tart... God those pictures everyday and the whole story was just sickening to watch...

God delt with the Mom,,, thank God...

Ditto. I've always kind of had this suspicion that maybe the parents were involved somehow. Not them necessarily killing her, but maybe they helped in a coverup. I don't know.. this is just my .02, so don't flame me. Details just don't make sense.. no footprints in the snow, no sign of forced entry, the ransom note had many details in it, such as finances that no one would really know about.. I recall having heard/read something that the mother was really pissed off and went on a rant about JonBenet wetting the bed. I don't know.. but I definately don't think Karr did it.

Karr's ex-wife, who he isn't on good terms with, even said that she doesn't recall him ever being away from home during the Christmas holidays; that they lived in Alabama, I believe.

[Nochowderforyou]

That whole child beauty pageant thing troubles me on so many levels. Not the least of which is the complete and total emphasis on looks rather than on character or intellect.

Yes, I agree. I find those pageants unsettling. I actually was watching a program on it the other day. They dress up their 4 year olds, yes, 4yrs old, like cheap whores. The little girl was saying she wanted to make babies with one of the boys, and her mom would ask, "do you think he's cute?", like, COME ON. They are kids for fucks sakes. They also had to sing a song, with a million pounds of pressure on the kids. Pushing them so hard yelling, "you're not going to win acting like that!", like what, a 4yr old. Then when the little girl forgot some of her lines, her mom gave her a nasty look and she ended up crying her eyes out at the end of the show. Mom was so hard on them.

Anyways, why would this guy make this up? I know there are lots of holes in the story, but what would possess someone to make this up, and risk going to jail, or the death penalty, that would result in no more life? I don't get it.

[birdgirl73]

I'm not sure what motivated the unfortunate Mr. Karr to make that claim, assuming it's an untrue claim. If he ismaking his story up, I agree with what Daima suggested earlier: that he was motivated to get out of Thailand, the country he has been in. He also seems clearly motivated to grab his 15 minutes of fame and appears to be relishing the spotlight. Assuming he's not a DNA match and they can't find beyond-a-shadow-of-a-doubt-worthy circumstantial evidence, he won't have risked much simply by making a public confession. They really need concrete scientific evidence to indict and convict him of capital or first-degree murder. He'll still face his pre-existing child porn charges--and he may get some slight punishment for making a false confession--but he doesn't risk losing his life for the false confession alone. Again, I think everyone's eager to see what comes out of that DNA testing. If he is a match and the police can put him in Boulder on the night of that murder, I hope he fries.

On the subject of child beauty pageants, has anyone seen the movie "Little Miss Sunshine" yet? We went to see that just a few hours ago, and I loved it. There's a darling little girl in the movie, headed to just such a pageant event with her wacky family. Go see it and see if you don't like the way the film handled "differences," both in her family and in the child's own unique beauty.

[graph]

Watch the father in the interviews.

I uh... yeah... I knew we'd catch him sooner or later... yeah.

Jon Benet's body may have been killed the day after christmas, but her soul had been dead for years before. Someone who does that to their child, who steals their childhood away, their integrity is gone in my eyes. I think she was probably being punished for not being such a sophisticated woman at the age of seven, and things got out of hand.

What kind of a parent wouldn't search every nook and cranny of their house if they had a missing child? Come on now.

[graph]

Being shitty parents doesn't make them murderers.

Oh, I guess I didn't express the fact that I think they did it.

Umm, yep. Think it was the father. I think the mother wanted it done, but she couldn't go through with it.

I dunno, when you read through the case documents, I think it just all adds up to the parents. Their alibi doesn't seem real, it seems made. I mean, let's look at it this way. Her body was found in the basement. In all fairness, it wasn't an ordinary basement but still. Kids love to "run away" in secret areas of the house, yet her body wasn't found until her father and a detective go looking for it? If their pet dog was missing they would have searched.

It all sounds so cold. It's all so calculated, like they walked throughout the house, breaking windows and making footprints, saying to themselves this is how it happened. Except for the ransom note, I think that was thrown together when America became interested.