sorry about not being here for a while....i was moving,not quite done yet.i will put some pics up eventually.my outdoor is budding quite nicely the indoor seems not to want to flower. been in flower mode for 3 weeks or so and still just preflowers on most.one has nothing i pinched the outdoor hermie the other day and WOW!!!!2 hits burnt me can't wait for the pink hair dont want to pinch her though.had outdoor pics but accidentally deleted them.i will more than likely be out to check on them in the next day or two..a few won't be done before frost but they will be happy as hash.