If You Get Offended Easily Dont Read This.........

[Krogith]

by following the bible you learn a peaceful life. and you learn that if all followed by the same rules we would all live a better life. so how is that so blind? I would love to live in harmony with everyone and live forever. all in peace and without greed.

Greed and hate have created this system we live in and not following what god has said got us here. you like this system of things?

Krogith Reviewed by Krogith on 10-03-2006. If You Get Offended Easily Dont Read This......... The European has twisted and turned everything to fit his warped way of thinking. He has made himself the center of the world, indeed of the universe. Have you ever heard the words Oriental and Occidental? Orient means East and Occident means West. Now heres the twist. Europe, as put forth by the European, is the center of the world. Therefore, anything to its east is Oriental, while anything to its West is Occidental. This is what is meant by Eurocentric. If Europe is not the center Rating: 5

[JaggedEdge]

by following the bible you learn a peaceful life. and you learn that if all followed by the same rules we would all live a better life. so how is that so blind? I would love to live in harmony with everyone and live forever. all in peace and without greed.

Greed and hate have created this system we live in and not following what god has said got us here. you like this system of things?

You can learn peace without following the bible. Not to mention many evil acts have come as a result of relgion and the bible. The crusades?

Bush is a strong believer, it hasn't tought him peace? People shouldn't need this book to lead good lives. I think it bible is simply an old book. No different than Giglimesh or The Iliad. People shouldn't need the bible to teach them how to live a good life. Not to mention it fails at what you say. Priests molesting children, a god fearing president waging war, and the "head" of the Catholic Church insulting and provoking extremist muslims. Yes please, let's speak of all this good the bible as taught.

Religion is becoming outdated. I don't need a fear of God to treat my fellow man with respect. I have respect for my brothers because I live in a halfway civilized society, not because I'm in fear of spending eternity in the fire pit.

Religion was invented to control the populace and I firmly believe it is an evil and negative istitution. As for the bible, it shouldn't be needed to teach tolerance or peace.

Most Christians don't know how to treat others with respect. As I said I grew up around them. Look at the way's they view homosexuality... Yes I can see how great a job the bible has done teaching these people the meaning of respect and equality.

[Krogith]

just because humans decide to NOT follow the bible and Kill one another ( the Crusades) this proves it false? how so they are false not it's teachings. the cross is a idol. the ones who use it as a idol and justifucation for war are following satan. the bible says being gay is wrong. so suporting it is following satan again....

Following what the bible says means aplying it. thoses who don't are chooseing that path.

[JaggedEdge]

The bible also say's none of us has the right to judge another for we have all sinned, yet it also tells us to judge the homo's because they take it from behind? Again you want to say that the bible teaches good yet you are saying it has given promission to treat a group of human beings like shit? Their is also a point in the bible where god strikes down a man and a woman because he spilled his seed on the ground. Do you have sex? Do you wear a condom? Do you masturbate? You are commiting a horrible sin according to the beloved bible. If you answer yes to any of this you are no better than the Homo's.

[Krogith]

god designed a man and a woman. going agenst what he has set for you is chooseing your path. we are all here right now able to choose our paths. God created all and has a right to set rules and ways for things to be done.

find me that scripture please. the seed on the ground

[JaggedEdge]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onan


I'm getting ready for bed so I went to my favorite website, wikipedia.com
I have pasted the contents below, but is much better to view it at the website. I hate the way things look when I just paste it.

Wikipedia states...

Onan
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For the Major League Baseball pitcher, see Onan Masaoka.
For Onan generators for RV, marine, home, commercial mobile, portable and APU applications see Cummins.

Onan (אוֹנָן "Strong", Standard Hebrew Onan, Tiberian Hebrew ʾÃ?nān) is a person described in the book of Genesis in the Bible.
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Narrative

Onan was the second son of Judah. After his older brother Er died, Onan was required by the tradition of levirate marriage to marry Er's widow Tamar. According to Genesis 38:7-9, when he had sexual intercourse with Tamar he "spilt his seed upon the ground" because the resulting child would be considered his late brother's, not his. In response to this transgression, God killed Onan. The transgression was disobeying God.
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Interpretations

The earliest interpretations were straightforward. What Onan had done was dishonor his dead brother and shirk his obligations. Exactly how he frustrated the purpose of levirate marriage was irrelevant. The text emphasizes the social or legal setting, with Judah describing what Onan has to do and why. The plain reading is that Onan's sin was refusal to provide his dead brother with an heir.

Medieval Catholic authors understood the activities of God in this story as a condemnation of contraception. This interpretation was held by important figures in the early Church, such as St. Jerome who makes explicit reference to Onan's sexual act:

But I wonder why he [the heretic Jovinianus] set Judah and Tamar before us for an example, unless perchance even harlots give him pleasure; or Onan, who was slain because he grudged his brother seed. Does he imagine that we approve of any sexual intercourse except for the procreation of children? (Against Jovinian 1:19, A.D. 393)

Clement of Alexandria, though he does not make explicit reference to Onanism, certainly reflects an early Christian view of the abhorrence of "spilling seed":

Because of its divine institution for the propagation of man, the seed is not to be vainly ejaculated, nor is it to be damaged, nor is it to be wasted. (The Instructor of Children 2:10:91:2 A.D. 191)

To have coitus other than to procreate children is to do injury to nature. (The Instructor of Children 2:10:95:3)

However, some modern Biblical scholars assert that Onan's primary sin was to violate the rules of levirate marriage. Possibly, the main purpose of these verses was to denote the punishment for violating the rules of levirate marriage, which was a divine law, rather than for practicing either coitus interruptus or masturbation. Most also understand the passage to refer to coitus interruptus.

More evidence against interpretation of Onan's sin as masturbation is contained in Leviticus 15, which discusses the ritual impurity resulting from heterosexual intercourse (verse 18) separately from that resulting from ejaculation (verses 16-17), implying that masturbation is not a capital offense.

The Book of Deuteronomy was written by Moses, (Deuteronomy 25:5-10 describes a way for the brother to decline this responsibility) who wrote long after the time of Onan. Onan was the son of Judah, the son of Jacob, the Son of Isaac, The Son of Abraham. The time that has been estimated in which this occurence took place was the year 1729 B.C., Whereas the giving of the Law concerning the Brothers Duty, was given in 1451 B.C., 278 years seperate those events.
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Popular culture

Dorothy Parker quipped that her parakeet was named Onan because he spilled his seed.

David Foster Wallace in Infinite Jest depicts a future North American society governed by the Organization of North American Nations or O.N.A.N. Those opposed to the foreign policy of said government are known as anti-O.N.A.N.ists.

Momus, on his album Stars Forever, had a song titled "Onan the Barbarian".

The Catholic Church's teachings concerning birth control were the inspiration for the song, "Every Sperm is Sacred" in the movie, Monty Python's The Meaning of Life.

Mel Brooks describes a character named Onan in his recording (with Carl Reiner) of the 2013 Year Old Man. "Onan was falling one day and grabbed on to himself and fell in love."

In the computer game Enter The Matrix, after Ghost spars with Trinity, Trinity asks about getting Ghost a girlfriend, to which he responds that he responds to a higher power, namely "Onanism."
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Category: Torah people

[Krogith]

read the whole passage of genesis 38 you will see that he was told to have relations with his sister inlaw and because the offspring was not going to be his own he decided to not have any and directly disobay god by waisting his seed. thus his death

[Krogith]

the law then was if your brother died and left a widow then you have to marry her and her 1st born will still be of your brothers line. he decided to not follow gods law. hence death.

we also need to undrstand that after jesus were under the new laws. no longer are men to have muti wifes. after jesus death were under the new covnent. Thats why we do NOT do burnt offerings anylonger ( jesus was the perfect offering to atone for our sins wich adom has passed to us)