If You Get Offended Easily Dont Read This.........

[Binzhoubum]

I am at a loss of words for what appears to be the worst attempt at word association. You started off well until you began on the whole mother aspect, from which it all just went to pieces and became mindless rabble. So many aspects of that statement are absurd, from a mother being essential to survival, which mothers are not, to Europeans not containing melanin, which all but albinos do (and albinos aren't mutants either). Yeah, that's deep, real deep.

Skin deep....

Or the part where he claims that the etymology of the word human comes from "hue" meaning color...that is BS too. :smokin:

In fact, so much of it was BS that I didn't want to waste my time dissecting it.

[graymatter]

I don't know... it's sort of creative, in a Spike Lee meets the Cohen brothers script way.

[OnionsOfLove]

sorry, but what youre talking about is evolution.

black men once ruled "afrika," the center of the world as you call it. proof is in the face of the sphinx, which is undoubtedly african american.

as they migrated around the world, people lost pigment but gained knowledge.

they changed the "center of the world" to what they thought WAS the center of the world. the atlantic was to the west and there was land to explore to the east. once the eastern lands began to be explored, america was discovered and the "center of the world" changed. however, due to the fact that language is slow to evolve once it has been set in place, the orient has not yet been given another name.

the word hue has absolutely nothing to do with the word human. The word human is from "humanus", the adjectival form of "homo". Homo refers to a genus in which humans are the only species. The other species in the genus Homo have all gone extinct, which yet again points towards the truth: evolution.

allow me to throw one more thing into the mix:

there are erosion marks on the sphinx that indicate the existance of incredibly high water levels, especially considering that the sphinx is in a very very large valley that empties into the mediterranean. there are cities perched high above mountaintops in peru that are OBVIOUSLY port cities...the evidence is so collectively large that there is no way to doubt it. could the story of moses and the ark be true? it certainly could be. perhaps there was a period of global warming on "pre-flood" earth. and if this period of global warming caused the ice caps to melt, then people obviously would have perished in a great flood. would it have been very hard for someone to realize the changing weather patterns and decide to build a boat? of course not. also... isnt it funny that macchu picchu was built an indescribable amount of years ago on a very high mountain peak? could it be that a giant flood couldnt reach that high?

personally, i choose to believe things that have been written down for thousands of years and have slight geographic proof. at least i can feel like i am dreaming in the correct direction.

cheers

[Hamlet]

uh, Noah and the ark...unless you're talking about the ark of the covenant. Indiana Jones: "didn't you guys go to Sunday School!".....lol

But the Noah story even being close to factual is a little far fetched. They believe they know the older Babylonian story it was based on which was pretty much something about high water in the river and a king floating down to the next fort with some of his livestock on board. (think Paul Bunyan and you get the picture about how such stories evolve). Flood anxiety though is a cultural phenomenon and there's always a lively yarn to be found to go along with it.

[OnionsOfLove]

im simply saying that in the bible there is reference to a large flood.

there is also reference to a large flood in other holy books and records around the world.

there is a whole undersea city off the coast of asia that cannot be dated because it sustains incredible amounts of erosion. whatever the case, it is old.

there are port cities at 12,000 ft in peru, and there is water damage on the sphinx.

Perhaps (AND JUST OPEN YOUR MIND FOR THREE SECONDS PLEASE) humanity has been on earth for longer than we think.

the truth is that no one really knows whether or not there was an ark. the fact that some people choose not to believe it is a prime example of close-mindedness. why not believe it?

people who tell lies are quickly thwarted by someone who asks questions. if you ask a question to someone and they cannot answer it, they are either lying or talking about something that they do not know. how do you know that the person who tells you that the ark never existed is lying or not? the only way to know something is to find out for yourself, and the only way to begin finding out for yourself is accepting that you are ignorant except for the garbage that you have been fed your entire life.

i for one choose to believe things until they are proven wrong, just like math, the language of truth.

cheers

[Breukelen advocaat]

im simply saying that in the bible there is reference to a large flood.
there is also reference to a large flood in other holy books and records around the world.
there is a whole undersea city off the coast of asia that cannot be dated because it sustains incredible amounts of erosion. whatever the case, it is old.
there are port cities at 12,000 ft in peru, and there is water damage on the sphinx.
Perhaps (AND JUST OPEN YOUR MIND FOR THREE SECONDS PLEASE) humanity has been on earth for longer than we think.
the truth is that no one really knows whether or not there was an ark. the fact that some people choose not to believe it is a prime example of close-mindedness. why not believe it?
people who tell lies are quickly thwarted by someone who asks questions. if you ask a question to someone and they cannot answer it, they are either lying or talking about something that they do not know. how do you know that the person who tells you that the ark never existed is lying or not? the only way to know something is to find out for yourself, and the only way to begin finding out for yourself is accepting that you are ignorant except for the garbage that you have been fed your entire life.
i for one choose to believe things until they are proven wrong, just like math, the language of truth.
cheers

Nobody denies that arks existed, but there is no way that a pair of every species of beast and insect on earth were all on an ark. This would be physically impossible, even today, on modern vessels.

The bible also tells us that a whale swallowed a man to save him from drowning, a snake talked, people came from "dust", and all sorts of other nonsense. To reject these claims is not "ignorant".

[OnionsOfLove]

rejecting these claims without considering them first is completely ignorant.

you must ask:

is it not possible for a whale to swallow a man? if it were possible, the air in the whale's body would keep a man alive, would it not? so how could you say that it has never happened?

obviously a snake talking is a metaphor that isnt MEANT to be taken at face value. we both know what it was MEANT to be taken as.

the energy that holds together molecular bonds cannot be created or destroyed, only changed. when a person dies they decompose into the earth that they lived on their entire lives. the energy that once fueled that person changes form into soil nutrients and other random stuffs. plants suck nutrients out of soil and humans eat plants. how could it not be possible that humans come from dust? if you say it is impossible, you are doubting modern science.

to reject these claims is completely ignorant. rejection of anything without complete analyzation of possibilities arrives at a premature discovery of an incorrect truth.

[Breukelen advocaat]

rejecting these claims without considering them first is completely ignorant.

you must ask:

is it not possible for a whale to swallow a man? if it were possible, the air in the whale's body would keep a man alive, would it not? so how could you say that it has never happened?

If it ever happened, which is unlikely, it was purely an accident, and the whale did NOT do it to save the man.


obviously a snake talking is a metaphor that isnt MEANT to be taken at face value. we both know what it was MEANT to be taken as.

No, I don't assume anything. Nowhere in the bible does it say that that Genesis was a metaphor.

the energy that holds together molecular bonds cannot be created or destroyed, only changed. when a person dies they decompose into the earth that they lived on their entire lives. the energy that once fueled that person changes form into soil nutrients and other random stuffs. plants suck nutrients out of soil and humans eat plants. how could it not be possible that humans come from dust? if you say it is impossible, you are doubting modern science.

Modern science is quite different from the ravings of the ignorant, naked, half-starved, savages that were responsible for the myths of the Old Testament.

to reject these claims is completely ignorant. rejection of anything without complete analyzation of possibilities arrives at a premature discovery of an incorrect truth.

There are thousands of absurd things in life that people could claim have merit, and we must judge that some of them are so stupid as to be worthless. The superstitious claims of the bible fall into this category. They are not worth the time and effort that it would take to disprove them - because it's already been done.

[OnionsOfLove]

If it ever happened, which is unlikely, it was purely an accident, and the whale did NOT do it to save the man.

If it did happen, the man was saved. The whales intentions will always be unknown, but someone can interpret them as having been to save the man.

No, I don't assume anything. Nowhere in the bible does it say that that Genesis was a metaphor.

can snakes talk? of course not. could it have been a metaphor that actually teaches people that their brain has the power to make them think that snakes talk? yes. i am a person who has the ability to reason and i do not differ physically from the person who wrote genesis. i have the ability to explain hard-to-grasp things using complex forms of imagery and metaphor, but i first have to accept that someone will not take me for an idiot. if you actually think that someone wrote "and the snake spoke..." because they were trying to say that "snakes can talk" then you are a very shallow thinker.

Modern science is quite different from the ravings of the ignorant, naked, half-starved, savages that were responsible for the myths of the Old Testament.

yes indeed modern science is quite different, but i just told you a way that modern science can prove exactly what was written in the bible that you call false. please read it again and re-evaluate it. the "ignorant, naked, half-starved savages" that you speak of are the same ones that built the pyramids, invented wine, came up with the mathematical concept of zero, and wrote the bible. if you were to open your mind for a whole three seconds and IMAGINE that those people were ACTUALLY SMART and that they were trying to TELL YOU SOMETHING you would have something to GAIN from their writing, especially if you were one of them. the old testament was something that almost brought together every single person at one time in the earth's history. it almost made everyone think for a split second that perhaps its true and perhaps we are all the same. imagine the possibilities that would be realized if everyone on earth TODAY were to UNITE.

There are thousands of absurd things in life that people could claim have merit, and we must judge that some of them are so stupid as to be worthless. The superstitious claims of the bible fall into this category. They are not worth the time and effort that it would take to disprove them - because it's already been done.

everything that someone experiences in life has merit because something can be learned from every situation in someone's life. the problem is that people are so ignorant that they choose ignorance.

unless something has been proven mathematically people still have the ability to imagine the possibilities.

cheers

[Hamlet]

As metaphor the old myths are great stuff for sure. If you put yourself in the times its not hard to see how they came about. You're a goat herder in charge of a group of goat herders. You're old and wise, and probably pretty smart since dumb didn't get you very far in those days. Now the young people are admiring your wisdom and asking you some really impossible questions about some really extraordinary things. Well, all you really know is goats, a flood you saw once, and that time you wandered into Ur with the really strange carvings. So what do you do? You get creative! ...and just like the birth of the Blues something totally original is born! All those archetypes and symbolisms kick in and we have stories to tell around the campfire for hundreds of years. They're important stories because they tell us about ourselves, our cultures and how we came along. Even about how our minds and imaginations work....wonderful stuff really if you want to peek below the surface.

I don't think Matsu Petchu (sp?) was a sea port though. I kinda keep up with that sort of crap and I feel I would have heard something. Any time you're reading about the pyramids and inca ruins it's important to keep your New Age/UFO bullshit filter on. They love that stuff and have no problem inventing myths of their own