Top Ten reasons Hi-jackers were FAKE

[latewood]

You cant swallow the Pill caus eit will make your whole life bullshit...

If we are in Jihad what then.............

Jake each one of them went in to kill in the Name of Jihad..............


Post one think where a person went to kill people and was In the name Of Jesus I kill you..............

It doesnt happen........... dont say shit about the war......

I want stories of christians walking into work and killing in the Name of JESUS

NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!

In the crusades...the templers (The pope's special forces) were the murderous bastards of the christian Army, and murdered many innocent muslims, before being wiped out eventually after a Jihad. That is a fact. they felt that they gained a better foothold into heaven with every muslim life they took! So, there is your Christians Killing in the name of christ.

By the way. Many Christians were attempting to live peacefully wiht Muslims in the region; But greed, prejudice and the fact that "Templers" escalated the warring at every level. I oculd go on and on, but I think you will get the point.

[Bong30]

You are WRONG............Christians Have learned over the years.

yes the crusades were bad..........................BUT

(THIS IS WHAT YOU WONT SEE)
WE LEARNED FROM THEM........................

Show me articles where Muslims stand against Violence

The Crusades
Apology of the Pope



The Crusades were a series of wars initiated by Christians to win back their holy lands from Muslims, with a total of 8 Crusades in almost 200 years... both Catholics and Protestants were involved... at this time there were no Protestants!.

the first, 1095-1101, Pope Urban II;
the second, headed by Louis VII, 1145-47, New Advent;
the third, conducted by Philip Augustus and Richard Coeur-de-Lion, conquest of Jerusalem, 1188-92;
the fourth, during which Constantinople was taken, 1204;
the fifth, which included the conquest of Damietta, 1217;
the sixth, in which Frederick II took part (1228-29); also Thibaud de Champagne and Richard of Cornwall (1239);
the seventh, led by St. Louis, 1249-52;
the eighth, also under St. Louis, 1270.


The reason for the Crusades:

By the end of the 10th century, the spread of Islam had all but stopped and a comparatively stable state of affairs existed between Muslims, Jews and Christians with the latter able to make pilgrimages to Jerusalem, which was at that stage under Muslim rule.

This state of affairs came to an end however, with the aggressive expansion of the Turks who were ambushing parties of Christian pilgrims on their way to Jerusalem. The various routes to Jerusalem had been relatively safe and these sudden attacks alarmed the European Christians for whom pilgrimages were very important.

With the Byzantine Empire under threat from the Turks, the Emperor Alexius swallowed his pride and sent a request to Pope Urban II in Rome for help.

This cry for help was a perfect opportunity for Pope Urban to regain some influence over Constantinople and also fulfil his obligation to protect the rights of Christendom.

On 27 November 1095, thousands gathered outside the cathedral in Clermont-Ferrand in France to hear Pope Urban II's message. At this great gathering he called Western Christendom to take up arms and liberate the Holy Land. With the Pope's message stirring them to fever pitch, they shouted, "God wills it!" and began to sew the sign of the cross on their tunics. Within months, thousands had started the long trek eastwards, anxious to bear the sword in the name of Jesus Christ and to free Jerusalem from the Muslim infidel.

Jerusalem was taken from the Muslims on the third Crusade, by Philip II King of France, and Richard I (Coeur-de-Lion) King of England.

The Crusaders had to set up a state. They took counsel as to who should be chosen to rule in the Holy Land. After much intrigue, Godfrey of Bouillon, Duke of Lower Lorraine, was offered the title of king. He chose instead to be called the Defender of the Holy Sepulcher, saying that he could not wear a crown of gold in the city where his Savior had worn a crown of thorns.

In 1187 Saladin, who had overthrown the Fatimid caliphate in Egypt, expanded his power into Palestine and seized Jerusalem.

In 1291, when Acre fell, Christian rule in the Holy Land ceased to be a matter of practical politics.

During the many battles of the Crusades there were many atrocities, both by the Christians and by the Muslims. The Muslims won more battles and eventually the War, seizing Palestine and Jerusalem for hundreds of years... so, they had more opportunities to commit atrocities, and indeed they did!... though many historians don't even mention one of them!.

Some historians believe that the starting of the Crusades was a Just War, I believe so too.
http://www.catholic-pages.com/dir/link.asp?ref=19838

Other historians believe that the initial spirit of the Crusades was changed into Western Europe's most ambitious common enterprise and its most conspicuous failure was the attempt to bring together all mankind in Christian unity under the leadership of the bishop of Rome, St. Peter's successor, the pope. The most intense part of this enterprise and the one that enlisted the most widespread support in Europe from all levels of society was the Crusades.
http://mars.acnet.wnec.edu/~grempel/...1crusades.html

http://www.catholic-pages.com/dir/link.asp?ref=11822 Crusades: Truth and Black Legend
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/04543c.htm Catholic Encyclopedia, the Crusades



An Apology:

A sincere Apology for the wrong doings is always a very healthy sign, because the recognition of past wrongs serves to reawaken our consciences to the compromises of the present, opening the way to conversion for everyone.

The Church of Christ has often apologized for the wrongs of the pass, for the Crusades, the Inquisitions... I would like to see apologies of Islam for the wrong doings of the pass, for the 1001 battles with millions dead, for the 800 years of conquest and blood shed in Spain, for those 600 years in Portugal, Greece 500 years, Sicily 300 years, Serbia 400 years, Bulgaria 500 years, Rumania 400 years, Hungary 150 years... for the bloody conquests in Africa and Asia for hundreds of years... for the atrocities now going on in Sudan, with already 2 million people dead for the only crime of being a Christian...

I sincerely apologize for the atrocities of the Crusades and the Inquisitions, and for my own wrong doings... and I pray God to have mercy on all of us in the Name of our Lord Jesus Christ. Amen.

The last official apology made by the Church was done by the Pope himself, by John Paul II, on March 12, 2000.You an read the full text on Apology of the Pope.

John Paul II says:

"We forgive and We ask Forgiveness"...

"We cannot fail to recognize the infidelities to the Gospel committed by some of our brethren, especially during the second millennium. Let us ask pardon for the divisions which have occurred among Christians, for the violence some have used in the service of the truth and for the distrustful and hostile attitudes sometimes taken towards the followers of other religions"...

"Let us confess, even more, our responsibilities as Christians for the evils of today. We must ask ourselves what our responsibilities are regarding atheism, religious indifference, secularism, ethical relativism, the violations of the right to life, disregard for the poor in many countries"...

"We humbly ask forgiveness for the part which each of us has had in these evils by our own actions, thus helping to disfigure the face of the Church"...

"For the role that each one of us has had, with his behavior, in these evils, contributing to a disfigurement of the face of the Church, we humbly ask forgiveness."

The Pope apologized generally for all sins, but specifically for sins in the service of truth, sins against Christian unity, against Jews, Muslims, Indians, Africans... against respect for love, peace and cultures, against the dignity of women and minorities, and against human rights.

The sins were not specifically enumerated. But when you boil them down they come to this â?? they are political acts by an institution of faith: the Crusades, The Inquisition, persecution of Jews, the forced conversions of Indians and Africans, acts to preserve the power and enrich the Church, acts committed in Concert with Monarchs bound to the church by oath.
Commentary to the John Paulâ??s Historic Apology http://www-tech.mit.edu/V120/N14/col14kris.14c.html



Vatican Apology, April 8, 1998

On March 1998, the Vatican issued a 14-page report that apologized for the Catholic Church's silence during the Holocaust http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/relig...ican_4-8a.html

POPE JOHN PAUL II: (translated) We are deeply saddened by the behavior of those who in the course of history have caused these children of yours to suffer, and asking your forgiveness we wish to commit ourselves to genuine brotherhood with the people of the Covenant
REV. THOMAS REESE: Well, there was a lot of reluctance within the Vatican to talk about past sins at all. But this pope has a real sense of history, a sense... I mean, he's the one who apologized for how the Church treated Galileo. He's done it about how the Church treated the Jews. He's mentioned the Muslims, I mean, he's mentioned most recently in this confession: women. So this is a Pope who's courageous in facing the sinfulness of Christians and calling on them to do better. He knows what he wants to do, and he says it. http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/relig...logy_3-13.html.



Crusades Apology 900 Years Later:
http://www.soon.org.uk/page15.htm
http://www.beachbrowser.com/Archives...ears-Later.htm
http://www.angelfire.com/ky/dodone/Crusades.html

Some 500 people from more than 30 countries converged on Jerusalem to apologize for the Crusades. Over the previous three years and four months, 2,500 people participated in the interdenominational walk, following the original Crusaders' path, starting in Cologne, Germany, continuing through Turkey, down to Syria, Lebanon, Israel and ending in Jerusalem. Along the way they met with local residents and shared with them their message of apology and reconciliation.

"We have apologized to Muslims, Christians and Jews throughout the region, but this is one specifically from us as members of the Western Church to the Eastern Church. Please accept our apologies," Lynn Green, international director of The Reconciliation Walk.



The Muslims want us to go back to the Middle ages...................



OK so now latewood you are supposed to show me where muslims stand against Violence.


Would you lke me to post the teachings in the Madrasass for you... sound like you might need a little education you self...........