Oh, and the fucking seeds we ordered at the end of july(Nirvana Seeds's White Rhino & AK-48) never came in, so we're probably just gonna start up some more bag seed. Thats what those plants were and they were kicking ass. Big one was from some blueberry that we only got like 5 seeds from and 4 died before that big ass one was stolen. The big one had been topped wayyyyyyyyyyyy to early because my friend didn't know much about growing when he started and topped it at like 4 inches. That stunted the growth a lot for awhile and it was probably started in about beginning of june and that pic was the middle of august so it was about 2.5 months old at that time, probably gonna be a good 4 months old before we would have flowered it. If you look in the pic from the bottom you can see where the stalk made a V really low down but then it grew another top back out of the place it had been cut so i think it may have been accidentally FIM'ed. But yeah, GK i'll keep you posted.