Organic peanut butter vs. Jiffy/skip brands

[JDiz]

OK: here's the real deal, scientific explanation behind why organic peanut butter works BETTER than regular (although skippy and jif will work, just not as effectively)

First of all, it's important to remember that fatty acids with long chains are more susceptible to intermolecular forces of attraction than ones with shorter chains that are more strongly bonded with hydrogen.

The lack of the extra hydrogen atoms (such as the case in a poly-unsaturated fat like natural peanut oil) on the molecule's surface typically reduces the strength of the compound's intermolecular forces. Thus, with these weak molecular structures, they will bind more readily with other substances, such as THC, when exposed to a catalyst (in our case heat)

However, the makers of Jiffy and Skip hydrogenate their peanut butter because they want their product to have a long shelf-life and not have to be refrigerated after opening. Also, it's just more visually appealing to have the fatty acids well bonded and solid at room temperature than to have a little oil slick at the top. The downfall lies in the fact that a hydrogen bond contains massive amounts of energy. This energry is very difficult to break, but when it does there is a large net output (think hydrogen bomb)

Hydrogenation converts unsaturated fatty acids to saturated ones. But not completely. Since the original oils usually contain more than one double bond per molecule (that is, they are poly-unsaturated), the result is usually described as partially hydrogenated oil; that is some, but not all, of the double bonds in each molecule have been reduced. So, with a partially hydrogenated oil, you have less double bonds between carbons because more hydrogens are attached. Each carbon that is double bonded will readily bond with thc (whose chemical formula is C21-H30-O2) due to the nature of THC's structure.

So with skippy or jif, you are still going to have some double-bonds (remember: longer-chains w/ less hydrogen = more reactive) left over from the process that THC will bind to, but not as many.

So yes, you can indeed use skip or jiffy in a pinch but it's smarter from a chemistry point of view to use an organic peanut butter.

Sorry for the long post, but hopefully the confusion is a little clearer now.

JDiz Reviewed by JDiz on 08-10-2006. Organic peanut butter vs. Jiffy/skip brands OK: here's the real deal, scientific explanation behind why organic peanut butter works BETTER than regular (although skippy and jif will work, just not as effectively) First of all, it's important to remember that fatty acids with long chains are more susceptible to intermolecular forces of attraction than ones with shorter chains that are more strongly bonded with hydrogen. The lack of the extra hydrogen atoms (such as the case in a poly-unsaturated fat like natural peanut oil) on the Rating: 5

[Freemount]

You are exactly right, nicely done too. Yeah I just bought my bottle of organic and not only does it work with f-crackers but it tastes so good. The ingreadents in the organic are: Peanuts. haha.

[Captain Hanks]

thats becuase skip amd jef are fake and full of chemical with not much natural ingredient, organic is allways the way to go

[Bong30]

Life is short............. Fuck organic peanut butter


you guys will learn its the little things.............


if you are going to freak out on the peanut butter..... use the good shit less often??????

As for making the best fire cracker that is a diff story.......

[JDiz]

bong... it's almost as though you either didn't read or understand what I wrote. Using organic means more THC binds with the oil which equals bigger, better and longer high. Oh well to each his own opinion.

[Reverse G.B.]

Holy shit Jdiz, you I was wondering about this for the past week and i just came on today to find out the answer. Thank you so much for the thread!

[graymatter]

Hydrogenation converts unsaturated fatty acids to saturated ones. But not completely. Since the original oils usually contain more than one double bond per molecule (that is, they are poly-unsaturated), the result is usually described as partially hydrogenated oil; that is some, but not all, of the double bonds in each molecule have been reduced. So, with a partially hydrogenated oil, you have less double bonds between carbons because more hydrogens are attached. Each carbon that is double bonded will readily bond with thc (whose chemical formula is C21-H30-O2) due to the nature of THC's structure.

Avoid hygrogenated fats in any product (it's a particularly bad fat for us to process) and you'll feel better and lose weight. You don't have to use organic peanut butter. There's plenty of natural peanut butters out there that don't use hydrogenated fat.

[JDiz]

Avoid hygrogenated fats in any product (it's a particularly bad fat for us to process) and you'll feel better and lose weight. You don't have to use organic peanut butter. There's plenty of natural peanut butters out there that don't use hydrogenated fat.

Right... so did you read what I said?

[JamesTurncoat]

I want to make some f-crackers... But I'm wondering, do they need to be consumed immidiately? Or is it once the THC is in the penut oil they're good to go at anytime afterwards?

[JDiz]

they'll be good for at least a week, but try to let them cool down enough to not burn your mouth