Hizbullah â??is not anti-Jewish. I repeat, they are not anti-Jewish.â?�

[jamstigator]

Seems pretty clear to me, but let me check dictionary.com. Yep, documentary and fiction, two different meanings. Arabs are probably the fiction-makers' most used antagonist, but the reason for that is that there are more extremist Arabs. Sure, these movies could use Buddhist extremists, or Hindu extremists, but that wouldn't be very believable, seeing as there aren't really any around, whereas Arab terrorists are a dime a dozen.

It's not like anyone is saying all Arabs are bad though. When you see a movie that involves KKK members beating up black people, likewise, that isn't saying all white people are that way. If Arabs don't like playing the antagonists in movies, maybe they should look to their own flock and try to weed out the many that really *are* antagonists. In other words, if they acted more like peaceful Buddhists, they'd probably get the same film treatment as peaceful Buddhists. Unfortunately, there seems to be a disproportionately high number of suicide bombers and terrorists and such mixed into their population. You're judged by those with whom you associate. Whether that's fair or not is a question for another thread.

Can't remember the last time I saw a Jew kill a Christian child to use his blood to make matzah though. Oh yeah, that's right: never. Good thing 'documentary' doesn't necessarily mean 'true'. In any case, I was responding to the statement that Hezbollah isn't anti-Semitic. Their own documentaries prove that statement false, in as complete a way as is possible. They're their own worst PR people.

[IanCurtisWishlist]

regardless of hizbullah being anti-semantic or not, that is not the point. they aren't zionists. secondly, most arabs aren't terrorists. most arabs just want to live their life like everybody else in the world. these terrorists are only a small militant sect of islam--a cult, if you will--much similar to jim jones and his crew. however because it is the militants blowing themselves up and killng people, it's them who receive the media coverage. it gives them a bad name.

and there is proof that israel is killing children. maybe you should read some news reports. when you're dropping bombs on a fucking city, do you think it's only military men, or adults being killed? thats as absurd as saying the bombs dropped on hiroshima and nagasaki were killing only imperialists.

[Bong30]

regardless of hizbullah being anti-semantic or not, that is not the point. they aren't zionists. secondly, most arabs aren't terrorists. most arabs just want to live their life like everybody else in the world. these terrorists are only a small militant sect of islam--a cult, if you will--much similar to jim jones and his crew. however because it is the militants blowing themselves up and killng people, it's them who receive the media coverage. it gives them a bad name.

and there is proof that israel is killing children. maybe you should read some news reports. when you're dropping bombs on a fucking city, do you think it's only military men, or adults being killed? thats as absurd as saying the bombs dropped on hiroshima and nagasaki were killing only imperialists.

do you have the mental intilect to debate the use of BIG BOY?

No.... I didnt think so..... What was the causulity projections if we needed to invade mainland Japan? Dont know.... didnt think so.


Jim Jones.......are you kidding me?

this is math.... 1 billion muslims, 10% are wahhabist...........

100 million people want you DEAD..........

I was unaware that Jim Jones had 100 million people....

Huh learn something new every day.........NOT

[IanCurtisWishlist]

do you have the mental intilect to debate the use of BIG BOY?

No.... I didnt think so..... What was the causulity projections if we needed to invade mainland Japan? Dont know.... didnt think so.


Jim Jones.......are you kidding me?

this is math.... 1 billion muslims, 10% are wahhabist...........

100 million people want you DEAD..........

I was unaware that Jim Jones had 100 million people....

Huh learn something new every day.........NOT

Excuse you for being so crude.

100 million people do not want me dead. You are mistaken.

Jim Jones was a cult leader. Jim Jones didn't represent mainstream christianity. In this respect, RADICAL JIHADING MUSLIMS are considered a cult by even other Muslims. This is because they do NOT represent the mass view of their religion--only a perversion of what muslims believe to be truth. They are disowned by fellow Muslims and denounced and condemned as terrorists.

Yes, I do have the mental intellect to debate the use of BIG BOY. Do you have the mental intellect to debate me? You're somewhat hostile. I think you need to lay down on the padded couch for a while and talk with a therapist or something.

Where are you finding your statistics? Kindly get me a source for these "facts". Thanks.

[jamstigator]

It's anti-Semitic, not anti-semantic. I'm not sure the latter has any meaning. And judging from the title of the thread, I thought that was the point: someone was postulating that Hezbollah has nothing against Jews, when in fact they operate their own racist printshops and pay to have the racist videos that they produce aired on television for the masses.

Sure, they're just a 'cult', but they're a cult with good funding from Iran and Syria, who use that funding to spread a message of hate to the masses. How powerful would Hitler have ever become if he hadn't been able to easily spread HIS messages of hate to the masses via radio and television? Giving a known terrorist organization (and 95 percent of the nations of the world consider them exactly that) access to mass media piped into everyones' living rooms just helps spread their messages of hate and encourages the violence.

I still find it weird to see anyone American defend Hezbollah. These are the guys that blew up hundreds of our people. In my book, that makes them an enemy. I guess I'm just unforgiving that way: when a group blows up hundreds of my fellow citizens, I like to see them get blown up some too. The more vertical Hezbollah members that are permanently transformed into horizontal Hezbollah members, the less hate and violence there will be.

[IanCurtisWishlist]

It's anti-Semitic, not anti-semantic. I'm not sure the latter has any meaning. And judging from the title of the thread, I thought that was the point: someone was postulating that Hezbollah has nothing against Jews, when in fact they operate their own racist printshops and pay to have the racist videos that they produce aired on television for the masses.

Sure, they're just a 'cult', but they're a cult with good funding from Iran and Syria, who use that funding to spread a message of hate to the masses. How powerful would Hitler have ever become if he hadn't been able to easily spread HIS messages of hate to the masses via radio and television? Giving a known terrorist organization (and 95 percent of the nations of the world consider them exactly that) access to mass media piped into everyones' living rooms just helps spread their messages of hate and encourages the violence.

I still find it weird to see anyone American defend Hezbollah. These are the guys that blew up hundreds of our people. In my book, that makes them an enemy. I guess I'm just unforgiving that way: when a group blows up hundreds of my fellow citizens, I like to see them get blown up some too. The more vertical Hezbollah members that are permanently transformed into horizontal Hezbollah members, the less hate and violence there will be.

i'm not defending hizbullah. i'm making my point now: radical islam is not true islam. radical islam is to osama bin laden as jim jones was to christianity.

[reeferizer420]

yo bong u got to chill out and look at this thing wit a more open perspective man. u gotta cut the racist bullshit and have a longer memory than a month... this conflict dates back to the creation of israel... in a place where there already was a country... palestine. im not anti semetic, i have a lot of jewish friends, im half jewish... but i dont agree with the forced creation of israel. and i also dont agree with your points of view and neither do a few other people on this thread, but you dont need to get all bitchy about it calling people shit and bein racist you can have an intelligent conversation and share ur point of view instead of telling other people wut to believe.

[thcbongman]

yo bong u got to chill out and look at this thing wit a more open perspective man. u gotta cut the racist bullshit and have a longer memory than a month... this conflict dates back to the creation of israel... in a place where there already was a country... palestine. im not anti semetic, i have a lot of jewish friends, im half jewish... but i dont agree with the forced creation of israel. and i also dont agree with your points of view and neither do a few other people on this thread, but you dont need to get all bitchy about it calling people shit and bein racist you can have an intelligent conversation and share ur point of view instead of telling other people wut to believe.

Palestine was never a state intended for the palestinians. It was a mandate to allow a jewish state, and maintain arabs' civil and religious rights. In 1945, arabs owned more land than jews. With the creation of Israel, lead to a lot of illegal land-seizing from arabs. Doesn't excuse any concept of terrorism, however, this people have great reason to be pissed. Just like Americans that have land taken away for a stadium or strip mall.

http://domino.un.org/maps/m0094.jpg

I don't agree with the forced creation of Israel either. I may not agree with much of what bong says, but he's right in that regard. The most disturbing part is that GS claims to be a free-thinker, but at the same time, all he displays is straight propaganda.

Hizbollah does some good for Lebanon. They built hospitals and schools, maintained intrastructure. However as a political party in Lebanon with armed forces, it's undermines the authority of the Army of Lebanon. It's a difficult position. You force Hezbollah to disarm, and what may happen is civil war.

But this claim that the Hezbollah isn't anti-semetic, GS obviously knows nothing about Nasrallah. He grew up in the slums, displaced by the civil war in Lebanon, his son killed by Israel forces. He is obviously bitter of the actions took upon his country.

A quote from Nasrallah himself, at the graduation of Haret Hreik on October 22, 2002. "if they all gather in Israel, it will save us the trouble of going after them worldwide."

Apparently our free-thinker GS think this is not anti-seminetic, but rather using his free-thinking to side-step facts, and rely on his "theories."

[jamstigator]

What happened to Palestine the country: "Following the 1948 Arab-Israeli War, the 1949 Armistice Agreements between Israel and neighboring Arab states eliminated Palestine as a distinct territory. It was divided between Israel, Egypt, Syria and Jordan."

So there ya go, that's what really happened to Palestine as a country. It was absorbed into Israel, Egypt, Syria and Jordan. Everyone talks about the lands that Israel has, but nobody ever mentions the fact that Egypt, Syria and Jordan also now own parts of what was once Palestine. Since the Palestinians aren't having a lot of luck talking the Israelis out of any land, perhaps they should ask their brethren in Egypt, Syria and Jordan for THAT land back.

Keep in mind that Israel agreed to a peaceful partitioning of the land that would have given the Palestinians more than they have now. But the local Arabs disagreed with the partitioning and went to war instead, were beaten back, and now have less land than they would have if they'd just agreed to the partitioning in the first place.

[Mark Bryan]

I'd like to share an interestin' story by J.R.Church and Gary Steadman www.prophecyinthenews.com O.K.you know how a hebrew child is circumcised at 8 days old right? On the evenin' of May 21,1948 Israel/Judah's seventh day,the Arabs from Lebanon to Egypt surrounded the newborn state and was preparin' for full annihilation waitin' for the sun to come up. There were no streetlights back then,meanwhile IDF commandos commandeered taxi cabs and other automobiles,took the tires OFF the rims and replaced them with metal barrels which they welded on the rims. Then they pot loggin' chains on the rims to give the audio illusion of treads on a tank! Then they took off the exhaust manifolds and ran on straight headers to make the engines real LOUD! Out of about 400,000 or so against 6 million Arabs armed to the teeth,they only had 25 handguns with 15 rounds each and one mortar with no shells,the rest were slingshots. Under cover of darkness they lined up east of the Jordan river side by side to within 3 miles of the enemy lines and on cue moved in between 40-50 miles an hour and overran the enemy camps! The enemy could only see a wall of dust and thought an army of tanks were comin and PANICKED! They FLED the camps leavin'
everything behind which the jews confiscated and returned home! They only suffered 3,000 casualties which was more reminiscent of a brit melah (circumcision) rather than a wholesale slaughter and Israel was saved!