please dont let my commets discourage you.i am a broke ass convict that has only been growing outside for most of my life.i am only passing along heard info on the bills ,equipment i know because i am about to start inside(the helicopters scare me )definately grow.....something early and outside....you can easily harvest 20 pounds with little knowledge.good money little effort.:thumbsup: you should sell killer for no more than 20 an eighth though(out of respect)