a nice joint: get urself a roll of 'rip' skin, tear off enough for a big one, rub on some oil, leave to dry. place one third decent rolling tobacco, one third pollen/kief, one third skunk/kind (depending on continent) into a big bastard grinder. grind into a fine substance, pour into skin, place a fairly long roach into it, spark it up and enjoy. p.s, not for lightweights.