no prob, I took no offense, whatsoever ... (I learn something new everytime I come in here) ... I've only cloned one time, and while it turned out fine, I just prefer seeds ... hard to change an old dirtfarmer, I guess ... ... I have read clones are never 'quite' the plant Mommie was, I don't know if that's true, but I'll find out before long, these 4 clones are coming down soon ... I have two NL99s and two Cotton Candy/S.A.G.E./NYCdiesels in their 6th week of flower ... their Mothers were/are powerhouses, so hopefully, their kids will be, too ... the Windex idea was from a friend who grows exotic orchids, etc.,, and unexplainably really perked up the plants ... it just occurred to me last night, farmers use ammonia to release the nitrogen from the soil, that must be why it didn't harm them ... :smokin: