American Indians Confront Bikers

[PigSnout]

So something that happened 150-200 yearsd ago means it still has an application today? People change and learn you don't.

Alot of people, like myself, had relatives that came over to America and had nothing to do with slavery. If you want to point your finger point it at the people who had slaves, point then at the rich. If you knew your history, obviously you don't, many countries had slaves. I'm not saying it is right but you love to point fingers and single Americas out.

You know little about the attack on Pearl Harbor as well as war. "America knew and did nothing" is the call of the uninformed. You find 1 person who says ?I knew Pearl Harbor was going to be attacked? and you think it's true. Hey chicken little the sky is falling. You spout out half truths and try to rewrite history. Learn before posting garbage.

America is about 250 years old and while not perfect, we've come along way. There will always be uninformed people like yourself who are jealous of the quality of the American way of life. Instead of doing something about your quality of life you try to bring down others to your level. Pathetic.

[PigSnout]

I read some of Psychos quotes and I think he's right on... According to your logic the only people that have a right to comment on America are Americans... isn't that sort of like representing yourself in court?

BTW - I'm an American

Your logic is seriously flawed. The poster in no way said only Americans can comment. You revise history, revising peoples posts isn't a stretch.

[PigSnout]

Please show me where I said that?
Do you mean real History or the American version?

keep trying man, It's obvious that history recorded by the people who actually witnessed it have alot more pull than people like you who make weak unfounded attempts at rewriting history.

[budsmoker]

because Indians did not have them, your folks did have firearms so that indians were pretty easy to pick on. These days people were talking like that
-samuel I am gonna hunt some indians today!!!!
Indians did not start a fight against your ancestors, yours did. Indians even saved their lives during harsh winter when they were starving to death. (thnaxgiving rings a bell?) Well your folks thanked them by killing them. can u say otherwise?

Your folks literally extincted many indians tribes, their cultures died along them. They even killed millions of buffalos, left to rot, so that Indians would have starved to death.

Dont ever tell me that red neck riders have any rights there!!!!!!!!!


I am not gonna even bother what your granparents did to black people!!!!

Imagine this...A huge dude knocks on your door and when you open your door he rudely invites himself in and occupies your living room. cause he is the bully you cant say a shit. day by day he invades all your apartment. how do you feel it?
think before u act, put yourself in their shoes..
Before everything I wanna state this, I am not anti to anything accept I am antiwrong.
Read "I burried my heart at wounded knee" by Dee Brown, then we talk about Native Americans. I dont think you know your history very well kiddo, but I do.

Do you watch discovery channel?...there it says "Americans knew Japanese were coming in but they did not nothing to prevent it" Just like in 9/11
sacrifice your own people to gather hate against enemy so you can declare war or u can just experince how deadfull your abombs are. Thats not what I say thats how it looks like
of course it is gonna be hard to accept your own fault but hey accepting it is a virtue....

It does not matter where I come from, I am from the earth, you have problem with that?

i agree with u :thumbsup:

[psychocat]

America is about 250 years old and while not perfect, we've come along way. There will always be uninformed people like yourself who are jealous of the quality of the American way of life. Instead of doing something about your quality of life you try to bring down others to your level. Pathetic.

One little flaw in your logic.
I would hate to live there, I'm very happy where I am, doing what I do.

[LegallyBlind]

Thanks for defending me PigSnout.
Not once did I say only Americans can comment on this so I have no idea where you got that from. Also saying that the leaders of the USA knew about Pearl Harbor and knew about 9/11 before it happened is just ridiculous. I am so sick of these bullshit, extremely far-fetched conspiracy theories that have no truth to them at all. Show me any of your evidence to those claims.

Secondly saying that we killed the buffalo to starve out the native americans is something that you just pulled out of your ass. Did you for once think about how diverse the overall native american population is? Did you think that every single native american survived off of buffalo alone? That is certainly not true. The majority of natives did not even eat or hunt buffalo at all. If you take a look at your history books and do a little research you will find that native americans were not the great conservationists you think they were. Many native american tribes completely depleted all of their resources and hunted many animals to near extinction.

Pigsnout is right on when he says that Americans are picked out and blamed for things that we are not the only ones that have done them.

PsychoCat why will you not answer me when I ask you where you are from?

[psychocat]

Why does where I am from matter? I'm not from any one place in particular but if I had to choose a nationality then I would say I am more Dutch than anything else.

The issue at question is the USA's treatment of modern Indians not ancient ones. The planned rally is just an ongoing example of the disrespect shown to the original inhabitants since settlers arrived there and unfortunately it shows no sign of changing.
Americans talk about "RESPECT" I see very little respect shown by you and people who think like you.

[LegallyBlind]

The bikers have as much of a right to use the roads and local establishments as the natives have to go and pray on Bear Butte. Its not like the bikers are abusing or harrassing the natives they are simply hurting the natives with all their noise.
You say the issue is the USA's treatment of "modern Indians" yet early you posted about the USA having no right to the land and stealing it from the natives...hmmm...

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I am mostly European and I have a little bit of Cherokee and an even smaller ammount of Hopi in me. The slaughtering of native americans was done by a small group of people and you need to realize that all Americans are immigrants and many are recent immigrants in that last 100 years. We weren't all here in the beggining. We didn't all have slaves, and we didn't all participate in every single negative aspect of our culture that ever happened. America is made up of thousands of different cultures all brought together and that is why it is great.

[budsmoker]

The bikers have as much of a right to use the roads and local establishments as the natives have to go and pray on Bear Butte. Its not like the bikers are abusing or harrassing the natives they are simply hurting the natives with all their noise.
You say the issue is the USA's treatment of "modern Indians" yet early you posted about the USA having no right to the land and stealing it from the natives...hmmm...

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I am mostly European and I have a little bit of Cherokee and an even smaller ammount of Hopi in me. The slaughtering of native americans was done by a small group of people and you need to realize that all Americans are immigrants and many are recent immigrants in that last 100 years. We weren't all here in the beggining. We didn't all have slaves, and we didn't all participate in every single negative aspect of our culture that ever happened. America is made up of thousands of different cultures all brought together and that is why it is great.

well then why dont america let immigrants from mexico and central america come here legaly?

[LegallyBlind]

well then why dont america let immigrants from mexico and central america come here legaly?

Since when can immigrants and Mexico and Central America not come her legally? The big issue is not that people are coming here legally, it is that they are crossing the border and coming here ilegally. Do you know what my family and what thousands of other families had to go through to become citizens of the United States? Do you know about all of the people going through the legal process to become Americans? These illegal immigrants mock what all the upright people going through the process of coming here legally.

All you people want to do is fight. This thread has strayed so far from the origional topic its disgusting. I try to put and end to this silly arguement, and I get flamed and attacked for something totally different. This is unbelievable.