god damn kerry your drone

[Kombucha]

Torog, are you saying you agree with Bush and his wars?
If so, why do so many American Christians say they believe in the Bible... as long as it works for them. "Thou shalt not kill" is totally ignored if its a foreigner that might be dangerous or a someone convicted of a crime.

[psychocat]

Torog is so full of shit he doesn't have a head just a colostomy bag , war for peace is an oxymoron you idiot , wars carried out in the name of the Lord (a lord who is supposedly peace loving????) are just bullshit too.
One question... If you took all of the unwanted religious fanatics in Europe and all the dissidents and sectarians, then mixed them all together , throw in a good measure of paranoia and what do you get after 200 years of interbreeding ?????
America of course.

[pisshead]

the thing people have to understand is, torog can call himself a christian all day long, but once he starts promoting anti-christian ideas as wholeheartedly as he does, he is no longer a christian.

he also calls himself a conservative, yet he supports and votes for one of the most socilastic/liberal presidents (bush) that this country has probably ever seen. he's done more to sell out our sovereignty to global bodies than any other president. our borders are wide open, he wants amnesty for anyone who can get here, gun control, bigger government, more spending, more dept. of education, more welfare and foreign aid, the FTAA as the pan american union...the list goes on.

torog is a liberal who doesn't know what it means to be conservative.

but because he puts that R next to his name, torog worships him. he listens to words, and doesn't look at peoples' actions.

torog, although he claims to be, is not a christian conservative, and neither is bush. bush is a blueblood elite from maine, a tory, an anti-american puppet put into power to further destroy the country and grow the anti-american sentiment around the world, and torog cheers it on.

we are literally mid 30's germany right now and you could write an encyclopedia on that topic alone. bush's granddaddy even funneled nazi money through his banks and built up the nazi war machine. his family are literally nazis.

[Kombucha]

I don't think either side is being that fair to each other.

Pisshead, I dunno what you're saying. Bush is a liberal AND a nazi? He certainly isn't liberal, or a nazi really.

[pisshead]

if clinton was a liberal, and bush only expands and further funds clinton's liberal policies...i don't know what else that makes him.

you can be liberal and a nazi. in the end, socialism and fascism is tyranny, dictatorship. you have the same end from both.

bush comes from a line of nazis. prescott bush was fined under the trading with the enemy act for funneling nazi money through his businesses and banks. that's well documented, and gets a lot worse than that...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/...312540,00.html

[Kombucha]

But being liberal isn't extreme right wing, it is moderate left wing, whereas facism is extreme right wing.

[Kombucha]

Being liberal is moderate left wing, whereas facism is extreme right wing.

[pisshead]

but in the end, extreme liberalism and fascism give you the same thing, tyranny. they sound a little different, but look very much the same.

socialism leads to fascism. socialism concentrates the wealth into the hands of a few, and then transfers the wealth and governmental powers into the hands of corporations, who then rule. we're almost there, we've still got a little way to go.

they're 2 arms of the same beast. both sides work against us to achieve tyranny. it's basically divide and conquer.

if we went back to what the constitution says, this kind of thing can't happen. but the constitution has been treatied and legislated away and too many people affiliate themselves with a party, which the founders warned us would be detrimental to the republic.

it seems they were right.

[Kombucha]

I think you need to be careful of worrying too much about historical laws. I know history is very important but things have changed a lot since the late 1700s. If the French kept their ideas from time of the writing of the constitution they'd still be beheading people for seeming like they liked kings too much or saving food.

[pisshead]

tyranny is tyranny. you'd be surprised how what we're seeing today is almost identical to the tyranny of hundreds and thousands of years ago.