salvia tomorrow hopefully, but some problems...

[myselfandi]

S-A-L-V-I-A Trip Rating Scale
Level -1 "S stands for SUBTLE effects." A feeling that something is happening, although it is difficulty to say just what. Relaxation and increased sensual appreciation may be noted. This mild level is useful for meditation and may facilitate sexual pleasure.
Level - 2 "A stands for ALTERED perception." Colours and textures are paid attention to. Appreciation of music may be enhanced. Space may appear of greater or lesser depth than is usual. But visions do not occur at this level. Thinking becomes less logical, and more playful; short term memory difficulties are may be noted.
Level - 3 "L stands for LIGHT visionary state." Closed eye visuals (clear imagery with eyes closed: fractal patterns, vine-like and geometric patterns, visions of objects and designs). The imagery is often two dimensional. If open eyed visual effects occur these are usually vague and fleeting. At this level phenomena similar to the hypnagogic phenomena that some people experience at sleep onset occur. At this level visions are experienced as eye candy but are not confused with reality.
Level - 4 "V stands for VIVID visionary state." Complex three dimensional realistic appearing scenes occur. Sometimes voices may be heard. With eyes open contact with consensual reality will not be entirely lost, but when you close your eyes you may forget about consensus reality and enter completely into a dreamlike scene. Shamanistic journeying to other lands, foreign or imaginary; encounters with beings, entities, spirits; or travels to other ages may occur. You may even live the life of another person. At this level you have entered the shamanâ??s world. Or if you prefer you are in dream time. With eyes closed you experience fantasies (dream like happenings, with a story line to them). So long as your eyes are closed you may believe they are really occurring. This differs from the eye candy closed eye imagery, of level 3.
Level - 5 "I stands for IMMATERIAL existence." At this level consciousness remains and some though processes are still lucid, but one becomes completely involved in inner experience and looses all contact with consensual reality. Individuality may be lost; one experiences merging with God/dess, mind, universal consciousness, or bizarre fusions with other objects real or imagined, e.g. merging with a wall may be experienced. At this level it is impossible to function in consensual reality, but unfortunately some people do not remain still but move around in this befuddled state. For this reason a sitter is essential to ensure the safety of someone voyaging to the inner levels. To the person experiencing this, the phenomenon may be terrifying or exceedingly pleasant; but to an outside observer the individual may appear confused or disoriented.
Level 6 - "A stands for AMNESIC effectsâ?� At this stage either consciousness is lost; or at least one is unable to later recall what one is experiencing. The individual may fall, or remain immobile or thrash around; somnambulistic behaviour may occur; injuries can be sustained without pain being felt; on awakening the individual will have no recollection of what he/she did, experienced or said in level 6. People cannot ever recall what they experience in this very deep trance state. This is not a sought after level as later nothing can be recalled of the experience.

[myselfandi]

If you hit level 4 (usually called "breaking through") then prepare to totally lose it in a 3d hallucination that may or may not use the enviornment you're in.

DO NOT DO IT IN A CONSTRUCTION SITE OR IN THE WOODS. A common hallucination is that the things around you begin to form walls and you begin to think you're trapped.

[Shrooms]

well, we bought 2 grams of 10x for $40, and used my friends bong to hit it. we packed small bowls for each of us and i had about 2 large hits from the bong. i didnt "forget everything" right after I exhaled, but i did start to feel very cool. my body felt like something was pushing down on it, towards the ground. i basically just felt really cool and laughed a lot.

we did it 5 people, not all at once but we passed it around. we had no bad trips, and only one person who really tripped and he told us what happened and it resembled to what you guys mentioned. another guy said he felt like he was like falling through his arms crossed over his legs. it was weird

i still have like .35 or so of what we have left of my gram. i want to try it again but smoke more of it.

so i say i was between a 1 and a 2 on the trip scale.

[Shrooms]

oh, then afterwards we packed 3 hugs bowls of weed mixed with clove black cigarettes. this stuff was amazing i took one huge hit (very harsh so i coughed and didnt clear it all unfortunately at first) and as i blew it out my whole body went numbish and i felt so euphoric and cool it was amazing. anyone ever try this, or try cloves in general?

[pixel]

cloves are good.

just a tip, you need to take ONE huge ass hit, one big one, and hold it in for at least 20 seconds. don't take a few small ones, theyll get you nowhere. take a long thick milky hit out of a bong WITH A TORCH LIGHTER and hold that shit IN. i guarentee you hit level 3-4!!!!

[Shrooms]

well i have about .3-4 like i said, do you think that this will trip me and my 2 friends out, if i do half with one friend then half with the other another day?

[myselfandi]

well i have about .3-4 like i said, do you think that this will trip me and my 2 friends out, if i do half with one friend then half with the other another day?

Man, I can get there off 5x. I'm sure thats plenty

[Dutch Masta]

well i have about .3-4 like i said, do you think that this will trip me and my 2 friends out, if i do half with one friend then half with the other another day?

You can get the full potential out of like 0.1 as long as you do it right and don't do something stupid like roll it in a blunt or forget to hold your hits in really long.

Sounds like you should have tripped harder though. Although the subtle effects of Salvia are pretty nice too.

And from my experience, one huge hit is more effective than several smaller hits. Just rip it and hold it in for as long as possible. 30 seconds, which is probably a lot longer than you would expect if you werent keeping count.

[Shrooms]

will do dutch, thanks

any other comments welcome

[WhosGotTheHerb]

Salvia is fuckin nuts!! I had smoked 10x before so bought some 15x with my bong the other day for my bday and holy SHIT did this stuff fuck me up!! AS I WAS TAKING THE HIT I started seein shit... these little star patterns on an ashtray started moving and the next thing I knew I was not THERE anymore.. and somehow my friend's bong ended up on me again and I was SO fucked up that I couldn't hold the bong, it was too heavy and it made my entire body start to sink and sag down towards the floor (which I thought in my state that I would fall through it) but I was too fucked up to tell my friends (who of course did not trip out) that I was sinking and having difficulty breathing... everything I could see in the room was dripping and distorted.. next thing I knew I was on the floor looking for something in my friend's room, probably a way out or some explanation for what was happening, then I was totally back to normal asking my friends what the fuck happened to me. It was NUTS.

The second time that night was after a few drinks at the bars, and this time I was completely removed from my friends and saw little creature-things dancing around.. it was crazy. Then right before I was back to normal the whole vision in front of my (my friends) was restored back to normal.

So do NOT do this shit in a place other than your home or a place you feel totally safe and comfortable... especially on anything above 10x for chrissakes.