9/11 TRUTH

[smitty420]

anyone that believes in a 911 conspiracy please go here http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse....i?u=911_morons

[eg420ne]

Bush & his Neo-Cons are the real enemy of the American people-- NORAD stand down orders were from Cheney, i guess them cavemen knew about the WarGames huh... The Official Story is but a Lie for the willing sheople to accept as fact..They say in their mind our government wouldnt do that, they love us to death......."GOVERNMENT IS NOT REASON; IT IS NOT ELOQUENCE; IT IS FORCE! LIKE FIRE, IT IS A DANGEROUS SERVANT AND A FEARFUL MASTER." - GEORGE WASHINGTON

NORAD Tapes Only Intensify Implausibility Of 9/11 Official Story
"These guys are smart," statement completely inconsistent with flight instructors description of hijacker's skills

It is clear that the exercises revolving around hijacked airliners scheduled for that morning created so much noise in the system that controllers could not pinpoint the positions of any of the real airliners to orchestrate any kind of intercept.

Errant 'ghost' aircraft such as 'Delta 89' and American Airlines 11 which controllers weren't aware had already crashed into the World Trade Center north tower continually confuse NORAD officials and at one point after Flight 77 has hit the Pentagon, they even intercept their own aircraft.

Several exchanges between NORAD personnel outline the confusion that the drills caused and delayed the response of air defense procedures.

08:37:52
BOSTON CENTER: Hi. Boston Center T.M.U. [Traffic Management Unit], we have a problem here. We have a hijacked aircraft headed towards New York, and we need you guys to, we need someone to scramble some F-16s or something up there, help us out.
POWELL: Is this real-world or exercise?
BOSTON CENTER: No, this is not an exercise, not a test.

8:37:56
WATSON: What?
DOOLEY: Whoa!
WATSON: What was that?
ROUNTREE: Is that real-world?
DOOLEY: Real-world hijack.
WATSON: Cool!

"When they told me there was a hijack, my first reaction was 'Somebody started the exercise early,'" said mission-crew commander Major Kevin Nasypany.


The exercise of running numerous war games where planes would be mock-hijacked and crashed into high-profile targets is dismissed as a coincidence by the writer Michael Bronner, with no discussion of the astronomical improbability of the two scenarios colliding, in alliance with similar same target, same time drills which took place during the London bombings.

The tapes betray the fact that NORAD's attention to the fact that Flight 77 was heading towards Washington are virtually non-existent as they struggle to gain authorization to shoot down stray aircraft.

Despite the lies of Cheney in his subsequent TV interviews and statements given under oath to the 9/11 Commission, those shoot down orders never arrived, even after United 93 had crashed in Pennsylvania.

While NORAD struggled to comprehend what exactly was heading towards Washington, in Dick Cheney's PEOC bunker things were apparently a lot clearer. The testimony of Secretary of Transportation Norman Mineta is brought under more scrutiny by the NORAD tapes.

How could Cheney know exactly what was heading for Washington and give clear orders for its path to remain clear, while the very people mandated to defend the skies of America scrambled desperately to make sense of the chaos and get fighters in the positions they needed to be?



"During the time that the airplane was coming in to the Pentagon, there was a young man who would come in and say to the Vice President, "The plane is 50 miles out." "The plane is 30 miles out."

And when it got down to "the plane is 10 miles out," the young man also said to the Vice President, "Do the orders still stand?"

"And the Vice President turned and whipped his neck around and said, "Of course the orders still stand. Have you heard anything to the contrary?"

Secretary of Transportation Norman Mineta's testimony to the 9/11 Commission, May 23, 2003.

[jamstigator]

Hah, that link (http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse....i?u=911_morons) was really pretty funny! Thanks for posting that, Oneironaut!

[eg420ne]

Who made NORAD stand down, USAma? ...Who Warned Top Pentagon Officials not to fly out on 911, USAma?

"During the time that the airplane was coming in to the Pentagon, there was a young man who would come in and say to the Vice President, "The plane is 50 miles out." "The plane is 30 miles out."

And when it got down to "the plane is 10 miles out," the young man also said to the Vice President, "Do the orders still stand?"

"And the Vice President turned and whipped his neck around and said, "Of course the orders still stand. Have you heard anything to the contrary?"

Secretary of Transportation Norman Mineta's testimony to the 9/11 Commission, May 23, 2003

How could Cheney know exactly what was heading for Washington and give clear orders for its path to remain clear, while the very people mandated to defend the skies of America scrambled desperately to make sense of the chaos and get fighters in the positions they needed to be?

[birdgirl73]

Bird Girl- I was doing laundry and I found the program... the guys name is Captain Wes Moore... truely an amazing human being.. and let me say that I am not easily impressed.

Thanks, Aaron, for letting me know his name. I'll keep an eye out for Captain Wes Moore.

I think I'm growing more easy to impress as I get older. At least I hope I am. The neat thing about growing older is the increase in humility that comes with the territory. I find the more I learn, the more I realize just how much more there IS to learn. And so I'm increasingly more impressed with the way even perfect strangers and unlikely characters can teach me something new and help me grow, even in small ways.

I find it impressive that you told me about Captain Moore. And it's impressive to me that you possess both a Y chromosome and the ability to do your laundry. That capability is a lesson I hope to impart to the two seemingly laundry-impaired men in my household!

[Aaron385]

Hey I even use fabric softener! Haha

Yes it is true that you can learn something from everyone and I also think that everyone is better at something than I am.. which I like to use to keep my ego from getting the better of me.. Instead of looking for ways that I am better than the people I meet (human nature) I try to look for the ways they are better than me.. and then personally improve in those areas.

I can cook too but without a girl friend to cook for currently I am lazy and just make easy stuff. I only cook when there is someone who will apreciate it more than me. After military food for 6 years a TV dinner is a top notch meal. I guess I am hard to impress but easy to satisfy. I like the way that sounds.

I always apreciate radical views too.. more or less.. as long as they are founded by real evidence and have a legitimate basis. I use to call myself an anarchist just because I thought less government was better government. I had to stray from that terminology due to my other responsibilities and the fact I know any of my better paying employers do internet searches and I dont make myself very hard to identify. I also am not too concerned about people finding out the way I think or feel. Id rather people dislike me for what I am than like me for something Im not.. unless they are paying me a ton of money.