9/11 TRUTH

[Aaron385]

Bird Girl- I was doing laundry and I found the program... the guys name is-

Captain Wes Moore

The title of his speech was "Using Your Internal Power to Change Your External World"

In the whole weekend with about a dozen different speakers there were only three standing ovations.. Wes got all three of them. He deserved it too.. truely an amazing human being.. and let me say that I am not easily impressed.

[CanGro]

Im not gonna bother reading through half the stuff on this topic nor am i gonna reply to a lot of it. This i am going to put accross though.

Q1:Has anyone acctually ever seen steel buckle under xtreme heat

A1:Yes i have, when steel is heated up to an xtreme where it is so hot that it buckles, it buckles to the left or the right. It doesnt compact into its self, in other words goes straight down.

Now how many of you did the copper and steel buckle test in science, cause i know for 1 i did and i remeber the effects of the way it bends. For steel to colapse in on its self it has to be heated to a point that its glowing so hot that it becomes a liquid. Now im affraid to say the way those buildings collapsed is not a direct link to fuel or any other substance burning. For a building of such magnitude to acctually colapse on itself the steel structurs have to have some sort of chemical reaction for the steel to split and collapse.

Now my heart goes out to all those that lost family and friends in the 9/11 incedent.

There will always be conspiracy theroys in everything and the truth will never come out american history has proven that time and time again.

[Oneironaut]

Sometimes, believe it or not, conspiracy theories do go away. Hardly anybody believes the conspiracy theories about Abraham Lincoln's assassination anymore.

[Krogith]

Im not gonna bother reading through half the stuff on this topic nor am i gonna reply to a lot of it. This i am going to put accross though.

Q1:Has anyone acctually ever seen steel buckle under xtreme heat

A1:Yes i have, when steel is heated up to an xtreme where it is so hot that it buckles, it buckles to the left or the right. It doesnt compact into its self, in other words goes straight down.

Now how many of you did the copper and steel buckle test in science, cause i know for 1 i did and i remeber the effects of the way it bends. For steel to colapse in on its self it has to be heated to a point that its glowing so hot that it becomes a liquid. Now im affraid to say the way those buildings collapsed is not a direct link to fuel or any other substance burning. For a building of such magnitude to acctually colapse on itself the steel structurs have to have some sort of chemical reaction for the steel to split and collapse.

Now my heart goes out to all those that lost family and friends in the 9/11 incedent.

There will always be conspiracy theroys in everything and the truth will never come out american history has proven that time and time again.

another good point

[Oneironaut]

Q1:Has anyone acctually ever seen steel buckle under xtreme heat

A1:Yes i have, when steel is heated up to an xtreme where it is so hot that it buckles, it buckles to the left or the right. It doesnt compact into its self, in other words goes straight down.

Now how many of you did the copper and steel buckle test in science, cause i know for 1 i did and i remeber the effects of the way it bends. For steel to colapse in on its self it has to be heated to a point that its glowing so hot that it becomes a liquid. Now im affraid to say the way those buildings collapsed is not a direct link to fuel or any other substance burning. For a building of such magnitude to acctually colapse on itself the steel structurs have to have some sort of chemical reaction for the steel to split and collapse.

First of all, I think I'm going to trust the engineers and firemen over someone who writes the word "extreme" as "xtreme". You can't just equate some high school experiment with heated steel trusses inside a damaged structure that has thousands of tons of material on top of it, and claim to know definitively that all the engineers' explanations have been disproven. If you actually understood the basic architecture of the towers, you would readily be able to see why they could not have fallen any way but straight down.

http://www.debunking911.com/towers.htm
(Thanks to Breukelen advocaat for the link)

[paparose]

Well, my children can say what they want (seeing as I have chosen not to have any). But if I had any, at least they wouldn't think that I was blind enough to think that the World Trade Centers were devoid of Jews and blacks and Spanish people and anyone not a 'true white American', whatever that is.

BTW, you didn't define what a 'true white American' is, and I'm sure many of us are interested in your definition, and why you chose to include the word 'white' at all.

As for whether what the Israelis are doing is right or wrong, well, that kinda depends on your perspective. If you're an Israeli who just lost his family because of Hezbullah rockets, I'm sure what they're doing seems very right. If you're a Lebanese civilian who lost his family in an Israeli airstrike, then I'm sure what the Israelis are doing seems quite wrong. Me, seeing as I don't like when terrorist organizations like Hezbullah kill Americans, which they have -- I'm okay with bombing them back to the Stone Age. Less people will die at their hands if all they have access to are sticks and rocks, and if they decide to attack Americans again, it'll be easier to defend against them.

I have to assume you're either not an American yourself, or you're anti-American, or something, seeing as you're basically defending a militant organization that has used terrorist methods to kill Americans.

as for the trade center u can believe whatever u want to believe in...
my info comes from inside....
"sending back to the stone age" pretty word from someone that comes from a "civilized" country.....Dont worry pal I know there are millions of healthy minded Americans think otherwise, your statement only shows your class.

haha ha thats what u come up with? I am an anti-american? U wanna build up hate against me at this board, childish...Well my relatives are but I am not. I have nothing against americans but if I see something wrong wherever it takes places I criticize, after all I have freedom of speech right? in short I am against of every false movement on earth wherever it comes from.

look pal it is obvious you dont know whats going around the middle east. I am not american nor middle eastern but I studied a lot and spent more time with both americans ( 6 years would be enough? ) and people from that geography. I know my shit.
People dont hate american citizens, they hate politicians and their sick plans . They hate that UN only serves strongs, UN could not say a word against the massacree in Lebanon because UN was formed by USA and sponsored by USA. Do you think USA would let UN to make a move against Israel, hahaha only in dreams. UN, IMF they all serve the stronger....IMF lands money with greater interest rate at the end you cant even pay your annual interest, thats how IMF operates, land money to destroy. another pretty invention of jews, as credit cards. People hate emperialism and capitalism that suck their blood out, hate the system not the people.
Lets see where USA has been so far?
Afganisthan. Kabil used to be a pretty developped city now just ruins and kaos. ( usa gave them freedom ;-) )
Iraq. same story, no more beautiful bagdat. kaos, almost civil war. (again US was there for so called freedom)
same story goes for Lebanon, Beirut used to be the Paris of middle east now people are barely living there. Thanx to israelis you make the world a better place to live in. Not only the bombs they were suffering from but also the shortage of food, gas, power, medical help and so on. Dont worry about jews in israel my friend they are all hiding in their comfy bunkers since day 1.

Accepting your own fault is a virtue which u will never have my friend. USA made a mistake in Iraq, your president lied to you. wake up, it is all about scenarios of big brothers. THE GREATER ISRAEL DREAM is being played and USA supports their dream in any means. I dont understand how a 7 million country can manipulate a 300 million country and use its soldiers to open up spaces for them. your man is dieing for jews my friend, wake up.

Israel needs water and that water is located in SE Turkey. They are so deperatley in need of water. In order to get that water first you need to clear up iraq, then syria and finally turkey. Iraq is checked, syria and turkey next...thanx to american soldiers that give up their lives....
To provoke kurdish (a tribe that lives in NW Iran, N iraq, N Syria and SE turkey) Jews created a story....I am not sure about the numbers but jews say there are 14 jewish tribes, 13 tribes are present but 14th is missing. Now they say 14th tribe is the kurds!!! wow what an outstanding discovery...all of the sudden they found them!!! congratulations...
Water is located where kurds and turks live together in SE. past 15 years a terrorist organization called PKK has been active in Turkey and responsible of killing 50.000 people, including woman, elderly and babies. Armed by Israelis, coached by mossad. As the English did in 1920s (arabs stabbed ottoman turks from behind and allied with English as a result the map of middle east was changed and a new country was born.... Israel.....) jews are provoking kurdish terrorists for separation of land so that a route to water could be open for them.
In 1994 I saw a map in a University in USA that gives SE of turkey to kurds and a non recognized country name was there " kurdistan" When I informed the geograpghy professor about it he made a research and told me that the map was wrong there was no such country called kurdistan. That "kurdistan" added map was distrubuted every school in entire USA, just to start up the plan .Now we see that map everywhere!!! suprise suprise USA had given a land to kurds before even turks knew, a part of iran is gone, a part of iraq is gone wow, what a reshaping.....
See my friend plans are made 10- 20 years in advance and year by year you get closer....and the next big war is gonna be over water not oil. Global warming is not a lie my friend it is happening. Guess what? jews emptied their wells, they are filtering sea water, they are occupying goran hills to dig more wells. water is important in that geography my friend.
let me tell you how the rest of the game is gonna be played.
Turks will look like the invador of kurdish land and to free those poor kurds israel will use American military power ( hey their soldiers are too valuable, even a reason to open a war, well americans and arabs can die as long as jews are alive and healthy)
Thats the plan, I doubt it will work but it is gonna be played anyway.

Who would benefit a war between Christians and Muslims? Think about it.

[CanGro]

First of all, I think I'm going to trust the engineers and firemen over someone who writes the word "extreme" as "xtreme". You can't just equate some high school experiment with heated steel trusses inside a damaged structure that has thousands of tons of material on top of it, and claim to know definitively that all the engineers' explanations have been disproven. If you actually understood the basic architecture of the towers, you would readily be able to see why they could not have fallen any way but straight down.

http://www.debunking911.com/towers.htm
(Thanks to Breukelen advocaat for the link)

First i have poor grammer skils so i shorten down words, secondly i know esactly how the twin towers where built as i was doing an archietecture degree at uni but got bored of it.

under xtreme heat steel buckles to the left or the right, it doesnt colapse under its own weight.......

Have you never seen how buildings collapse under exsplosion and the time it takes for them to colapse????????

[Breukelen advocaat]

First i have poor grammer skils so i shorten down words, secondly i know esactly how the twin towers where built as i was doing an archietecture degree at uni but got bored of it.

under xtreme heat steel buckles to the left or the right, it doesnt colapse under its own weight.......

Have you never seen how buildings collapse under exsplosion and the time it takes for them to colapse????????

Well, I met a professional architect on 9/11, on the NYC subway, that told me how the towers were built and that that they would collapse straight down. He was absolutely correct.

http://wtc.nist.gov/

http://www.debunking911.com/

http://www.popularmechanics.com/scie...e/1227842.html

[jamstigator]

I don't really understand how anyone believes any of these conspiracy theories. Gravity pulls stuff downward, toward the center of the Earth. Fire and gargantuan amounts of kinetic energy damage structural integrity. The WTC towers fell down. They didn't explode. They didn't really implode all that much either, and there are lots of rational non-conspiratorial hypotheses about why the bit of implosion that did happen occurred (fire eats oxygen, causing a vacuum, the main central supports collapsing downward and pulling the outer walls inward, and so on).

I mean, don't take my word for it. I'm just a dude. But I found that those guys with doctorates in engineering and metallurgy that were consulted for the NIST study were pretty credible. If they were just some dudes, well, I wouldn't be as apt to believe them, but a doctorate in their field and 30 or 40 years of experience, okay, I have to take them seriously. Especially when almost all of them agree.

[Oneironaut]

So what, the tower was supposed to have snapped and fallen over to the side? That doesn't really seem very likely, given the way the building was constructed. You're ignoring the important role of the central core column, which bore most of the weight of the building.

http://www.debunking911.com/collapse.htm