i had 5 of my first 6 plants turn male i still got one plant 1 mo left in flowering but i learned a lot first i was trimming wat to much i follwed the trons instuctions they say put 6 in one tron i only ended up with 3 i bought a used phototron 6 for 100 on craigs list and put the 3 smallest in itnow i have 2 trons 1 ,9 and 1,6 both have been highly modified the each have 2 105 cfls in them not 105 eqivalant ture 105 watt bulbs 370 eqivalant plus i added a servere fan to the top of each tron now the 9 has 680 watts in it and the 6 has 450 in it and i have a grow tent with 4 105 init and 1 85 watt one in it'i have 2 cases of cfl 105 made by lonestar 1 case 2700 k and one case is 5000k plus 3 85 watt cfls 2 r 3000k 1 is 6500 k i use them in varous configerations my ute bill is a bout 125 for my lights and fans and odor control i use a 6 inch vortec fan and carcool filtert 6 servere fans 1 4 bulb 4foot fixture with growluxs in it for my babes and clones i plan on 2 more tents 2x4x5 mabe 20 plants myself and my wife both have edabale cards so we get 12 plants each and im a caregiver for 2 freinds of mine im ramping up now my grow will always stay cfls and foresants the one thats left was the smallest oneand i look to harvast 3 too 4 oz from it i use vita grow system spagum moss an black gold soil 1/3 the cost of thoes desinger nuwts out there my nuwts and soil and meters and all was cheap ant my local nursury ricks i went to the grow stores out here and was going to spend over 100 just on nuwts i got my whole system from vitagro for less than 30 18-12-13 3 part system so you can adjust to ur needs i love miracalgrow moster control soil but its high too compared to 2cubic feet of moss and 3 1 cubic foot bags ofblack gold soil anf 1 5lb bag of perlit and i 2lb bag of bat gunno cost me lessthan 50 and i bought a bottle of liqud carbon too like any nuwts start at 1/3 strength and raise it slowly tell u get it right i will post some pic when i get a new battery door for my digatal cam my son lost ull be impressed my friends and the growers i met recently all where