ASTRO TRAVELLING..?

[Binzhoubum]

I keep trying to think of a way to make an alternative point, but I keep getting frustrated, you didn't say enough to argue with.
Show some proof. Links and logic.

In order to clarify what I was talking about I need to link up a couple articles first.

http://www.krishnamurti.oddech.com/beginnings10.html

http://www.kfs.org/~jonathan/witt/tlph.html

:smokin:

Trying browsing through those links. It will help you to understand exactly what it is I am trying to say.

I guess the easiest way to explain the point I am trying to make is like this: When we argue we are arguing because we have a certain belief that is in direct conflict with another indidvidual's belief, right? Well, what are beliefs? Why are beliefs formed?

Beliefs are formed when we identify ourselves with something and we like to identify ourselves through certain beliefs because it gives us a sense that we are able to do something or know something and in turn makes us feel secure. This is what we are seeking when we identify ourselves with some type of belief set or structure. We are seeking security through identification.

It simply doesn't matter what is truth or what is false when we are speaking about beliefs that have been formed out of a desire for security. Almost all of our beliefs and actions come from this need for security and identification. All of the truths we speak of and argue about on a daily basis are completely subjective. The only real truth, whatever that means, can come from complete objectivity, which, in turn, must come from the absence of belief and the destruction of this need for security through identification.

Our minds function out of habit, habits which have been learned through various interactions and events which occur in our environment. Why does the mind function in such a habitual way? Is it not true that habitual behaviors offer some semblance of security? The mind feels more secure functioning in habit because our respective habits have been constructed from that which is known, and that which is known is comforting.

So, we think in patterns which have been developed into habits which have come from interaction with that which is known. Are we able to change our thought patterns? Are we able to think of that which is "unknown", whatever that means?

How do we break out of these habits which are born out of all that is known? Seems to me like everything which is known is of little use and that everyone's beliefs are at the very least flawed in some manner. So, this is why I believe that in order to acheive a new level of thought or consciousness, one must relieve themselves of all beliefs and habits associated with the known.

There needs to be a break in the continuity of the known in order to rise above it and see it for what it is at it's most fundamental level.

Let me end with a few quotes I find helpful when thinking about this subject:

"We feel that even if all possible scientific questions be answered, the problems of life have still not been touched at all. But of course there is then no question left, and just this is the answer."

And my personal favorite: :smokin:

My propositions are elucidatory in this way: he who understands me finally recognizes them as senseless, when he has climbed out through them, on them, over them. (He must so to speak throw away the ladder, after he has climbed up on it.)
He must surmount these propositions; then he sees the world rightly.

Is that enough to argue with Inferius? :smokin:

Binzhoubum Reviewed by Binzhoubum on 07-29-2006. ASTRO TRAVELLING..? I thought this forum would be a good place to get some answers.A friend of mine has been into meditation for awhile now,the other day we were smokin weed and he starts tellin me that he can ASTRO TRAVEL!. He told me he can actually leave his body and travel any where in the world . The things he told me sounded really cool but i dont know what to believe! Can my mate really do as he claims or is he a bit full of it?:confused: Rating: 5