Israel troops 'ignored' UN plea

[Aaron385]

The missles hezbalah are launching at israel are ball bearing filled warhead rockets.. do you know what that means?

How you came up with a 50 sq mile "country" has the best army in the middle east?? Most determined maybe..

oh yea and the 12 hezbalah they killed were the ones that launched 1200 rockets.. the other 600 were COMPLETELY innocent.. YEA RIGHT! Come on.. Im not saying israel is innocent.. its pretty hard to be innocent in WAR.. weather you started it or not.. and we all know what happened to jews in the last big war when they tried to be innocent.. the moral of the story is how do you take such a stance on what the truth might be?

Im not really sure how anybody can just blow off the fact that these screwballs are launching antipersonell missels at civilians representing a clear and present danger that isreal must deal with..

Should israel be doing nothing?? just letting their "innocent" people die. What do you want from these people?? I want them to bomb more U.N. buildings.. but thats just me

[birdgirl73]

Y'all who are unfamiliar with Gray-Matter and his sense of humor need only to read a few of his posts to know, without a doubt, that yes, he was spinning his facetious and creative wheels there. For entertainment purposes.

I personally found it entertaining how seriously he was taken in the next two posts! I think it may be time for others to lighten up. . . . Gray, your deadpan delivery got 'em going once again!

[Delta9 UK]

I think it may be time for others to light up. . . . Gray, your deadpan delivery got 'em going once again!

Fixed :thumbsup:

And yes too funny Gray Matter

[thcbongman]

I'm sick of Israel.

I'm sick of Palestine.

I'm sick of the Middle East, and hearing about it.

Israel "need for security" is taken too far. They're already so wrong in many ways, including occupation of Palestine. They were suppose to be out of the terratory 40 years ago according to UN resolution 242. Nope. They're building settlements at strategic lands on palestinian land, near hills and resources to make an illegal land grab, and claim legitimacy to the land since "their people are there."

Terrorism and killing the innocent is awful. If you ask yourself why, It's hard to completely blame them, considering Palestinians live in what I liken to a big prison. Their daily lives are dependent on the mercy of Israel to travel and have access to various infrastructure because Israel controls the majority of roads in Palestinian terratory. Both sides have a lot of instilled hatred within them, making daily live worse for both israelis and palestinians.

Israel gets virtually no accountability in the US press, and none of them mention that occupying Palestine is illegal. It's sanitized bullshit. You hear about the dead Israel soldier, and about their family. The other side, it's just a number, expected deaths. It's not an objective, balanced press in America anymore. Infact I don't know if it ever was. It's ridiculous.

What is going on in Lebanon makes me sick. Israel is instigating this conflict to a higher degree than it should. Hezbollah should be wiped out. This is not the means, considering their previous behavior, including having Israel forces protect Lebanese christians while they massacred 2,000 Palestinians.

The worst part about it that the 60% of US Aid goes to Israel military spending, not to mention free weapon handouts. Israel is only powerful because the US made them to be. Sickening.

The US should get out of this issue all together. It's too bad they have too many special interests for it to be ignored.

[Breukelen advocaat]

THCbongman has represented and summarized his views of the politics and tragedies of this situation were very well in the above post.

Both sides are comprised of human beings, when it all comes out in the wash. I've posted plenty of information and opinions here, but these conflicts are rooted in religions that are at odds with each other. Even though Israel is more rational than their enemy, the basic belief system of the society is a major impediment to a successful resolution of the conflict. I also think that a person would have to be almost suicidal to live there.

The monotheistic belief systems are the greatest threat to the future of the human race and the planet. If it isn't one thing, it's another. The majority of practitioners of Islam, Christianity, and Judaism are not violent, but their religions breed fanatics - who would have the world destroyed in a minute to meet their insane objectives.

It is sickening, as the above posting says. If we could get out of the Middle East's politics entirely, that would be the best thing.

http://www.truthdig.com/dig/item/200...ist_manifesto/

http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/...reality_islam/

[Psycho4Bud]

They're already so wrong in many ways, including occupation of Palestine. They were suppose to be out of the terratory 40 years ago according to UN resolution 242. Nope.

I checked out some maps and really don't see where your comin' from on his one.

There was no Palestine to speak of. The West Bank was under Jordanian control, the Gaza strip under Egyptian control. The only real border area left is the Golan heights from Syria and considering their attitude, I'd be real skeptical about giving them the high ground also.

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

[thcbongman]

O.K. I partly retract that statement. The resolution focused more on the withdrawl of troops from those specific territories, both under Israel, Jordan, Egypt and Syria. The resolution advocates a "just settlement of the refugee problem." The tricky thing is how this entire resolution is interpreted and still argued to this day. In my humble opinion humane Palestinians should have a land they can call their own, the combined territories of Gaza and the West Bank. Certainly they must get rid of terroristic actions from their actions the norms of society for this to be acheived. My entire point is tho, the US should not be involved, and take no sides.

However, this whole Middle East situation is grim honestly because of the conceptions of Islam. The main reason is that Mohammad was illiterate. There many of his texts supposely written for him come into question. In Turkey recently, they took down offensive texts and ideals in mosques, and scriptures for that very reason. A little progression, but not enough. While the intent of Islam is for peace, it easily sickly twisted by man. Any religion can be, but with Islam, it's hard to prove which scriptures are legitmate.

The truth of the matter is neither side are willing to go the extra mile in the name of peace. The US should not play with shit.

[Aaron385]

The truth of the matter is neither side are willing to go the extra mile in the name of peace. The US should not play with shit.

And then you get genocide... and then all the liberals jump up and say "why arent we doing anything about this.. its Americas responsibility to stop all wrong doing in the world.."

And then we go to war with a bunch of people who are trying to kill each other.. and then the liberals will say.. "I hate war.. war is wrong.. bush is wrong.." and then a couple years into the conflict (before we are even close to being done) the liberals will say "its time to get our troops out of there.."

There is a reason people smarter than liberals are making these decisions you know.

[thcbongman]

And then you get genocide... and then all the liberals jump up and say "why arent we doing anything about this.. its Americas responsibility to stop all wrong doing in the world.."

And then we go to war with a bunch of people who are trying to kill each other.. and then the liberals will say.. "I hate war.. war is wrong.. bush is wrong.." and then a couple years into the conflict (before we are even close to being done) the liberals will say "its time to get our troops out of there.."

There is a reason people smarter than liberals are making these decisions you know.

I don't get how this relates to the Israel-Palestine-Lebanon conflict in anyway.

US-Iraq is a different issue altogether. We are going to be in Iraq for at least 10 years, and early withdrawl would be plain irresponsible considering how the US destroyed their infrastructure and still do. The U.S. won't leave until security and restruction goals are met. Besides the U.S. would get a piece of the action. It would be ridiculously stupid to leave behind a profitable security and restruction project after the U.S. Government spent hundreds of billion on this military conflict.

However this has nothing to do with the situation in Israel. Only benefit is a voice in the Middle East to project U.S. policies. This has the potential to become more widescale. You have Syria and Iran waiting in the wings for something to happen and jump in. You have the entire middle east ready to blow. You have 2 countries waiting to seize power from an economic slip-up in India and China. You have a sizeable percentage of U.S. troops tied up in Iraq and Afghanistan.

We have enough domestic problems in the U.S. to deal with Israel's conflict. Let Israelis and Middle Easterners destroy each other as far as I'm concerned. It should not be the U.S's responsibility to keep any country on life support. There is only so much you can have on your platter.

[Aaron385]

just keep funding israel.. they are like our little brother in the middle east.. kicken ass and taken names.