Quote Originally Posted by keinmehrkreig
WeedGremblin I found what you said to be very enlightening and although I am sure you are more knowledgable about these things then I am, I've expierenced enough things to believe that you speak the truth.

I've only done shrooms once, But I found it to be the most rewarding expierence of my life, I only for a short time had the sensation of a bad trip and that was caused by a non-tripping friend to start yelling at me over the phone...I quickly got over it though and was able to enjoy the rest of my journey... I've been practicing meditation my whole life and have had many profound expierences with it, but only about a year or so ago did I begin to attempt astral projection... I had some interesting feelings about it, but finally was able to achieve it for a few seconds but was scared and forced myself back into my body..

Amazed at what I had been through I foolishly told my Mom about it, asking her if she was aware of this kind of thing... well her being the concerned, over-protective mormon mother, she started cutting down at it, telling me that what I was doing was considered "witchcraft" and that I could become "possessed" she then started giving me books to read about people practicing astral projection and then getting consumed by devils and satan.

Now I found it to be ridiculous at first but you'd be surprised how much comments like that can effect your state of mind... A part of me thought that she was simply missinformed but it was enough to freak me out..

Only recently have I begun to practice meditation/mantra's again, and have once again gained a certain inner peace and wisdom that I could not achieve otherwise.

I would like to try shrooms again, I found the trip more then just a visually stunning few hours, it was so spiritual, and enlightening. A part of me was released that was always inside of me but my emotions always got in the way of, emotions such as ego,fear,doubt,and frustration.. But honestly I believe that shrooms, as well as meditation..are tools that mankind could benefit from greatly. It will allow you to be more comfortable with yourself, others, nature, and the universe.

Well it looks like I'm rambling...but I'd really like to talk about these things more with others who might know more about it, I have a lot to learn, and am getting limited support from family...Some of my friends have expressed an interest in these things as well, so all information that is given to me will be passed to them as well...

Peace.

Im not to familiar with the concepts and history behind astral projections. Im assuming that it is basically like the OBE on psychedelics except it is triggered without the use of substances. I will read up on this technique and get back to you with my thoughts.

Feel free to make a post with questions or anything you want to discuss for that matter, I love talking about this subject, its a slowly but surely developing passion. Weither or not you get past the visual aspect and into the spirtual/hyperspace/unknown aspects is completely up to the user. If they are having trouble reaching this point my suggestion is to eat more or perhaps fast before the trip, which the aztecs i believe it is did.

Hope you hear more from a fellow psychonaut.