One question for the delusional nutjob Braddog though When did you ever "spank" Oneironaut besides never. (and yes I've read all the threads you just ignore what he says and twist his words and then claim victory...Much like any christian apologist I've ever seen). Geez man believe what you want but you've never not even once come close to "trouncing" him. Or , even a valid rebuttal... www.fallacyfiles.org learn debate....

Got to admit the evolution vs creation thread made me howl with laughter though, Only like 2 people in that whole thread realize they've got nothing to do with each other and try to point out abiogenesis and all the nutjobs ignore it...Ah facts , we dont need no stinking facts. Evolution is as much a fact as gravity. Or do you still believe "atoms" are atomies (little fairies)....click on the links from Evilbible in the evolution threads transitory fossils have been found by the hundreds. Try asking a paleontologist you can email them and generally speaking they'll respond by the end of the weak (royal ontario museum) or try Berkely(or any major scientific institute or university)in the science wing every professor has email they'll respond too usually by next day...But hey learning's for suckers right?

Even the late lamented pope realized it was fact geez man, when the church even agrees you gotta wonder at peoples motivations for denial.

Bah why do we bother , if someones willing to ignore all the bad crap in the bible and still proselytize meh , ignorance/faith=bliss I guess.

I urge all disbelievers in science to walk the walk , If your sick its gods will , dont go to the doctor after all he uses evolution in medical research....as bobby boucher's mom would say "It's the devil!"