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Quote Originally Posted by IanCurtisWishlist
I hate christianity. That is a perversion of the truth if there ever was one. Jesus Christ himself said that the glory goes to the father. Why then does the apostle paul insist we worship him as a pagan sacrafice? Hmm, let's think about that for a minute... oh probably because Christianity replaced the Roman Empire's original paganism. Still, Christianity retains much of what is found in Mithraism and Paganism. The very notion of a God sacraficing his Divine Son for mine and your sins, is a direct reflection of Paganism. Also, Christianity contradicts what is found in the Torah (old testament ) , somewhere in leviticus where it is written that one should not offer his son as an offering for the lord. Why is that written? According to Jewish tradition, it is because the pagan tribes of the land would sacrafice their sons and daughters for their pagan gods, and Yahweh wanted no part of that in his religion.

Why do christians worship on Sunday, when the original sabbath was saturday? Answer: Because the pagan church used to worship on Sunday, before they all believed in Jesus Christ.

Also, the very notion of God as a 3 - part trinity ; when it is written "Sh'mah yisrael, adonai eloheinu adonai echad" --hebrew for "Hear, O israel! the lord your God, the lord is one" several times in the original Hebrew Tanach; this notion is entirely conflicting with the basic ideas of monotheism.

Interesting enough, the "holy spirit" is thought to be the angel Gabriel by Muslims.

It's very easy to prove christianity wrong, if you do your homework you will be surprised.

Iancurtiswishlist, I understand you difficulties, I think to a degree. I am not sure which passage from Paul you are referring to. I don??t think that matters though.. I don??t understand at all how you can deduce that Paul was promoting Paganism. Paul was a pharisee, who sat at the feet of Gamaliel. He was a Jew of Jews. He was very zealous for Judaism..... Paganism?

You are disregarding the father of Faith....Abraham. What was Gods request of Abraham on Mt. Mariah? This is in the Torah as you know. You Ignored this.

Sunday, is used by Christians I understand, because it is the beginning of the new week, A new beginning. The Sabbath principle is honored. Which is at the core of what God wants anyway.

How about the ??Type? established of the sacrifices that started from the beginning, with the animals killed for there skins, of which God used to cover both Adam and Eve, again a Type established of God covering us ...blood being shed was also a result. I do not understand how someone can quote scripture in Hebrew and not know these things. Clearly the picture of Christ's Crucifixion was laid out through the whole of the Bible......Ok lets say through he entirety of the Torah.

You can be convinced in your mind concerning anything that you chose to believe.
Your own logic .... use or misuse of facts is irrelevant to me......To say that you can easily disprove it is foolish.
A little bit of pride ....with some arrogance mixed in??

Isaiah 53 alone........ reveiles your claims to be false.

Isaiah lived during the late eighth and early seventh centuries B.C. .http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Isaiah

We must accept, this very involved and spoken of provision of God or be absolutly lost. He made the rules here. He chose to do things this way Bitching about it doesn't change a thing ....he has established himself through history....It is His..story.

Isaiah 53
The Suffering Servant

1Who has believed our message?
And to whom has the arm of the LORD been revealed?
2For He grew up before Him like a tender shoot,
And like a root out of parched ground;
He has no stately form or majesty
That we should look upon Him,
Nor appearance that we should be attracted to Him.
3He was despised and forsaken of men,
A man of sorrows and acquainted with grief;
And like one from whom men hide their face
He was despised, and we did not esteem Him.
4Surely our griefs He Himself bore,
And our sorrows He carried;
Yet we ourselves esteemed Him stricken,
Smitten of God, and afflicted.
5But He was pierced through for our transgressions,
He was crushed for our iniquities;
The chastening for our well-being fell upon Him,
And by His scourging we are healed.
6All of us like sheep have gone astray,
Each of us has turned to his own way;
But the LORD has caused the iniquity of us all
To fall on Him.
7He was oppressed and He was afflicted,
Yet He did not open His mouth;
Like a lamb that is led to slaughter,
And like a sheep that is silent before its shearers,
So He did not open His mouth.
8By oppression and judgment He was taken away;
And as for His generation, who considered
That He was cut off out of the land of the living
For the transgression of my people, to whom the stroke was due?
9His grave was assigned with wicked men,
Yet He was with a rich man in His death,
Because He had done no violence,
Nor was there any deceit in His mouth.
10But the LORD was pleased
To crush Him, putting Him to grief;
If He would render Himself as a guilt offering,
He will see His offspring,
He will prolong His days,
And the good pleasure of the LORD will prosper in His hand.
11As a result of the anguish of His soul,
He will see it and be satisfied;
By His knowledge the Righteous One,
My Servant, will justify the many,
As He will bear their iniquities.
12Therefore, I will allot Him a portion with the great,
And He will divide the booty with the strong;
Because He poured out Himself to death,
And was numbered with the transgressors;
Yet He Himself bore the sin of many,
And interceded for the transgressors.


We must accept, this very involved and spoken of provision of God or be absolutly lost. He made the rules here ....he has established himself through history....It is His..story.
braddog10 Reviewed by braddog10 on . Way to Prove Christianity wrong Ok I don't know if I'm onto something or if I need to quite the weed or what but this is what I came up with... If you can prove their is true pure happiness on earth then it proves heaven wrong...the bible states that heaven is perfect and that has happines that can't be reached on earth...so if anyone was to have a moment of pure happiness on earth then that would prove that their is pure happiness outside of heaven thus making a flaw in the bible...proving christianity wrong...wtf? Rating: 5