hey ate, what the deal with flouro's man..... i dont think they're that bad, i run a closet room with 3 2-tube fixtures (4 cool white, 1f-50 (full spectrum), and 1 plant "gro-lux tube") and i love them. i have 12 plants (mixed) some cannabis, some spinish,turnips,lettece and a 1gallon "water culture" hydro system with a tomato in it, and ive gotten satisfactory results

i do agree that it doesnt compare with a hps though, but for starters and small rooms,

it does work......