i tried some 30 x salvia fired up a bowl held it in for 10 seconds or more and i dont even rember me even blowing outa cloud fromthis stuff totaly warped to another world and then back againd in like 5 mins, felt lilke my sweat took for ever to drip off my face like it draged on ,,, oh man i would deffinly try it again to better exssperice it