Evolution or Creation

[braddog10]

Okay, okay, Faldwellian politics aside. Let's work this one out.

You have a house cat and you have a lion....They are very similar because they are in the same 'family'. They are in the same 'family' because________.(fill in the blank)

You have a chimpanzee and you have a man. Their chromosomAal compatibility is similar enough to actually cross-breed. (at least to the point of fertilizing the egg-more than likely all the way, but I'm not will to go all the way with a chimp just yet).
This is true because_______________.

you are ignorant of both. Anyway replacement hormone therapy is done with pigs, not primates. Armour thyroid for one of them. Hormones happen to be some of the most critical physiological chemicals that our bodies discriminate. Wheres your documentation? just more WILD claims no substance. By the way, what is represented in the bottom fossil record? Do you even know this one?

braddog10 Reviewed by braddog10 on 07-22-2006. Evolution or Creation The quesition is simple, but id like to here what you gusy have to think?:thumbsup: Rating: 5

[Ganjasaurusrex]

evolution has already been given a failing grade by logic and research. the bizarre thing?...... teachers keep passing it in their class because of some hard heads in the admin of the NEA, things have been getting a bit heated up by professors who have integrity issues promoting this , and still maintain a good conscience.

It's incredible that the need of a few people in positional authority to deny god, would cause them to go to such extremes to fight with there own researchers.

When an individual does this in the processes of his own mind (fight against what he already knows), The individual can deteriorate to the point of suicide or be locked up. crazy ain't it.....we all do this to a degree, but it is still mentally ill.

I love people I hate the lies that deceive them. I despise this one. It is unsubstantiated. Substantiated research says it is false. Deal with it.

"Evolution has been given a failing grade by logic and research"

If this is true then why do bacteria rapidly mutate against our modern antibiotics?

Its called adaptation and evolution in real time and you dont need a 1000 years to see the results of change in single cell organisms. Cells comprise every living thing on the planet and will change when confronted with adversity to survival, faster in single cell organsims, slower in evolved beings.

I dont deny evolution nor do I deny God or an ultimate creator.

[Hamlet]

Sorry about the 'wild claims'. I don't know what got into me. It's those heretics at National Geographic. They're trying to brainwash me.

[zero2104]

evolution, for how ppl got here

but god could have created first cells and space and stuff

[braddog10]

Hamlet, The "Geo Society" is a part of the same holdouts as are their few associates at the NEA. They are also not at the level of the top researchers, they are simply parroting the trash they have been taught. They frame everything in the paradigm shaped by their ed..... by guess who??? The NEA. I know I have been coming on a bit strong, and rudeness is not cool, regardless if we disagree. but this lie has been shoved down our throats Christians) until our stomachs are sick.

Thanks,
Brad

[braddog10]

Ganjasaurusrex, Of coarse, adjustments are made. minor, very very minor. How about the moth issues. It is very simple that the processes that shape bacteria, are the same processes that breeders use to shape herds. Check the very 1st fossil records.... Horses were horses, in fact there were more species then than there are now, Come on.... this is simple truth. There are no transitional forms of life. Museums designed elaborate, models of civilizations of supposed transitional man.......over a single tooth that turned out to be some kind of PIG. It's WILDLY speculative. Argue with the researchers. Don't waste your claims here.

[braddog10]

Sorry guys,

It's also the fact that the two of you have also been spoon Fed this BS.... that adds to my exasperation.

I care for ya,
Don't doubt that.

[mrdevious]

Actually Stephen Hawking had an excellent theory on how the original matter came into existence. I don't feel like going into detail right now, but you have to first bring in to question the nature of reality, space-time, and actaully not-so-clear distinction between "Something" and "nothing". which are not as separate as one might think.

[ChronicMike]

Creation.

[Ganjasaurusrex]

Everything in the universe evolves.

Galaxies evolve.
Planets evolve.
Trees evovle.
Plants evovle.
fish evovle.
micro and macro eco systems evovle.

The micro bacteria flora in the human gut has evolved to produce enzymes, vitamins, and immune cells to combat ever changing pathogenic threats that evolve right along with it. It has to change or the being is overcome with pathogens. Your immune system evovles lock step and memorizes viral codes to past flues. This is why younger people are more suseptable to newer flues as opposed to older adults that have experienced that strain.

Bacteria and virus evolve.
Insects evolve.
Reptiles evolve.
Birds evolve.
Animals and mammals evovle.

Some forms nature perfected to withstand very little change like crocodiles and sharks. The fossil records show this.

Human beings evolve.

The soul evolves.

There is not one thing in this entire universe that is static.

As environments are not static such as pangea (continental drift) or ice ages neither are the beings that occupy those enviornments. The ones that cant adapt fast enough when met with environmental adversity.......parish. Then new forms take their place. Modern man does have advantages obviously not held by early man.

Dinosaurs could not adapt fast enough, yet small fur covered mammals could.

Why did humans, primates, guinea pigs and fruit bats all suffer the loss on one enzyme out of three in the liver in order to self produce ascorbate, neccessary to sustain life of healthy skin, arteries, white blood cells etc.?

All reptiles produce this in the kidneys. All other mammals on this planet can self manufacture it in the liver.

The four listed above had migrated due to early environmental changes and due to environmental change have not adapted fast enough to enviornments void of ascorbate sources, thus the loss of one of three critical enzymes to produce ascorbate synthetisis.

A genetic mutation to environmental change.

You will die in less than 200 days without ascorbic acid. The early British and Antarctic explorerers were the first to discover this when facing scurvy. A death sentence without an ascorbic source such as citrus.

So were we created whole and perfect from creation.....no. Our bodies mutate along the way due to environmental adversity.

This is why these are the only four beings on this planet that must derive this essential chemical from external sources of certain vegatables or citrus or face death. That is a fact.

Bacteria mutate when challenged with mans modern antibiotics. This is life that adapts, evolves and mutates in real time in order to survive.

Virus is no different as we see each year at flu season variation in the flu virus, hence new drugs must continually be developed. The bird flu virus vaccine will need to be continually remanufactured as the virus mutates. We may not be able to do it one day.

Small changes in the cell equate no different than cells of the human body or any other living organism when under environmental adversity.

Single cells of bacteria and virus can adapt faster than any higher evolved being.

Bones in all mammals change with time. The average human will completly shed his entire skeletal system 10 times in his life.

It is no secrete that skeletal mutations and tissue mutations occur. Genetic deformaties are common in many creatures long before environmental toxins occurred to create those mutations.

To say we are created from a body that does not change or is perfect from an image is not true.

I believe in God, I believe in evolution. The two are inseparable in my belief.