Could the bible be prone to mistakes?

[braddog10]

Well 90% of its stolen from other more ancient religions so theres bound to be mistakes , Horus, Osiris, Jesus...It's a running theme. Compare ancient myths to bible myths, remarkable similarities. (in this day and age we'de call it plagiarism)....

I like the golden rule though, from any of the myths/stories its taken , either way its a good one.

Your just another nameless, faceless, individual, that lives here..... been here for God knows how long and has morphed into also ....God knows how many different projected users. It's the pollution of deception like yours that holds the door open for my departure. Your deceptive to compare Christ with the Demons....Horus, Osiris, and others who have been around eons before humanity was here. Christ existed too. They, you, and all of us will be subject to the blood of Christ. I have received it for cleansing, you for judgement.

How many faces and names do you have, or are you limited to just assuming others. ....This is sounding very familiar....Ever Heard of hypokrisis? Probably know the language.

I am so out of here..

[weirdo79]

and you are such a goddamn nutjob lol,De Nile aint just a river in egypt. Notice how when its healthy debate you run away. Typical...

[Dais]

The bible, the Koran, The kabalha, the eygption book of the dead, the necronomicion, the satanic bible, Wiccan, The keys of solomn, Its all the same shit Its all just a bunch of stroys ment to influence certain kinds of perceptions frankly I think nine times out of ten that the real messages are lost in time and editing. No religious text to this day is without missing parts and they all only have parts of the bigger picture all religion can be learned from they all have some good points and morals but they all also have thier dumbshit in them.

[Oneironaut]

You know... Jesus was kind of the first women's rights activist. He was always trying to make women equal with men and he always described them as being that way. If I remember correctly he said something to the effect of

"Men and Women are equal because Women came from Man's rib, and Men are Born of Women"

Huh? Nowhere in the Gospels does Jesus proclaim the equality of men and women. Jesus doesn't really say a whole lot about the role of women in society, and nowhere in my Bible can I find a quote like this. Which is completely inexcusable of course. A perfect intelligence would have been able to see the oppression of women around him and would have made himself very clear that it is not okay. Other parts of the New Testament however show the views of early Christians on women, such as 1 Corinthians 11:3-9:

But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonoureth his head.

But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven.

For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shorn: but if it be a shame for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her be covered.

For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man.

For the man is not of the woman: but the woman of the man.

Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man.

Or Ephesians 5:22-24:

Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.

For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.

Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.

If Jesus said something else, whoever wrote those passages must have forgotten it.

That's definitly no where near a textual quote but that's the way I remember it... I know it's in there. And I'm sure some of the early church leaders where Racist/Sexist too... That's just human nature.

It's human nature to be racist and sexist?! Dude, what have you been huffing? Racism and sexism come from one's social surroundings. If one is brought up in racist and sexist surroundings, one is likely to be a racist sexist. But if you have hippie parents like me, you learn to abhor discrimination. Hateful ideas are not built into our genes. They are learned. And if you ask me, Jesus should have said something about racism, sexism and slavery, so such ideas could have been unlearned millennia before the concept of civil rights was invented.

[shoi]

simply due to the fact that it is old and is being translated by diferent ppl at diferent times certin interpritations could be diferent and so it may not come out right

[Captain Hanks]

there are no mistakes within gods word

[jamstigator]

Maybe there are no mistakes within God's word, but since nobody's ever heard God's word, how would we know? Oh yeah, there are people that *say* they have heard God's word, but there are so many of those people, you can't believe them all. There are probably a hundred people who will ultimately say they've heard God's word born every day.

Religion isn't the way to peace and happiness. (I believe history proves that rather emphatically.) Empathy is. Organized religions have probably caused more death and misery on this planet than anything else.

[OnionsOfLove]

Oneironaut:

To say that men and women are equal is completely wrong. We each have our place and no one can deny it. However, many people refer to men as innovators and women as homekeepers. This is true in our current society, but perhaps it is only because it has been that way throughout history. Indeed maybe societies of the past have made women one way and men the other. Perhaps you could isolate several newborns in a fixed habitat and watch and observe who becomes the innovator and who becomes the homekeeper. Maybe both sexes would do both things together!
BUT WHO KNOWS BECAUSE YOU CANT TREAT HUMANS LIKE LABRATS.

The overall message in the bible is that all people should be TREATED equally. So pretend for a second that the Bible writes such things as you have listed as explanation that woman and men arent ACTUALLY equal. That there are indeed some inherent differences between the two sexes that make up the human race. I dont think anyone could possibly argue that men and women are created equal, especially because the two sexes have completely different reproductive organs. The fact that they have different reproductive organs leads to the fact that they have different hormones in their brains, and hormones have as much to do with muscle mass as they do thought process. It may be no mistake that men anger more quickly than women, especially considering that men have more testosterone. Could the fact that men anger quickly have to do with their obvious desire to dominate? And if men are constantly trying to dominate, doesnt that make them inherently different than women? Just thoughts.

What I'm really trying to say is that men and women being treated the same is different than men and women being created the same. The verses you cite have no relevance to the argument you are trying to make.

Define oppression?

Cheers!

[slowthestone]

Anyone else ever read Genisis and find it to be hugely contradictory to the rest of the bible?

Never mind the 'ew' that goes with realizing Genisis is chock full of incest. What I've wondered about for several years now is...

Why weren't Adam and Eve married?

There they were, making babies before the eyes of gOD...but OUTSIDE of wedlock. Which sets up that, to gOD, marriage is not required for man and woman to copulate.

So did gOD screw that one up...or is it evidence of the hand of man looking to impart his view of marriage into the bible?

And while I'm at it here...

Every word I can think of that begins with the prefix 'bi', is denoting the presence of two.

bifocal -- bilingual -- bipedal -- bicycle -- bifurcate -- bilateral -- bicarbonate, etc etc..as long as they have the pronunciation 'bi' (a word like 'bibber' doesn't have the 'bi' pronunciation)

So 'bi-ble', is meaning what exactly?

Maybe Oneironaut will put those etymology skills to work on it.

[Oneironaut]

"Bible" comes from the Greek word "biblia", which just means "books". You find the same root in words like "bibliography" and "bibliophile".