Slavery Reparations

[graymatter]

Yes, that horrible fate has been consuming the news... just watched a local poll and 71% of Bostonians will avoid driving through the big dig tunnels.

I'm enjoying my work but hoping to get more than a few days off between now and the end of the summer. Are you ready for the big lifestyle change? I really admire that leap of yours.

I'm viewing the conspiracist threads as entertainment at this point. I know, that's probably not the right approach. I'm afraid Iamapatient has given up on enlightening us... Peace, baby!

[birdgirl73]

Hope you do get some time off! You deserve it.

I am growing more and more nervous about the big change. Who in her right mind gives up a perfectly good job that pays an embarrassing amount of money to enter medical school at the age of 44? I suppose I do, but the more I think about it, the more frightened I get. At least where I am now, I know what I'm doing. I only have two and half more weeks of corporate America, and then that'll be it. Am I nuts?

Wish I could view the conspiracists as entertaining. I just view them as needing the care of a good psychiatrist. No sane person can engage them in conversation because they have one-track minds and clearly don't have any other thoughts than those regarding the trend toward global tyranny they see as such a problem. Even the thoughts regarding that problem are largely other people's ideas cut and pasted here. Frankly, the conspiracists themselves seem to be far worse tyrannists than anyone else. Wish they'd move to another country or get banned.

Well, maybe if IamaP finally got sick of us and gave up these boards in frustration, he'll go off and generate some original thoughts of his own rather than parroting Bill O'Reilly all the time. I'm frankly relieved at not having to endure his anger all the time.

Peace to you, too, baby! I'm going to go kiss on my dogs and cats for a while. I missed them like crazy! Talk to you soon.

[Bong30]

Am I nuts?

I have allways said Liberalism is a mental Disorder...........

Wish I could view the conspiracists as entertaining. I just view them as needing the care of a good psychiatrist. No sane person can engage them in conversation because they have one-track minds and clearly don't have any other thoughts than those regarding the trend toward global tyranny they see as such a problem. Even the thoughts regarding that problem are largely other people's ideas cut and pasted here. Frankly, the conspiracists themselves seem to be far worse tyrannists than anyone else. Wish they'd move to another country or get banned.

Said perfectly..............Thank you.

I'm frankly relieved at not having to endure his anger all the time.
Come on BG you still have me........

:thumbsup:

[Shelbay]

Well if they get some more money out of this then I think NATIVE Americans should get more than beads this go round.

[graymatter]

Well if they get some more money out of this then I think NATIVE Americans should get more than beads then go round.

Indeed! First and foremost... :thumbsup:

[Bong30]

Well if they get some more money out of this then I think NATIVE Americans should get more than beads this go round.

Hey My grandpa was a full blooded Indian........ Never met him. He died when my mom was 12.

[SpiritLevel]

[align=center]sanguinekane it's almost like you are saying Too bad Ni66er.[/align]

There is nothing reasonable that can be offered to ME as reparations. There is no appology great enough, there is no amount of gold heavy enough, there is no diamond flawless enough, there is no McNasty's burger nutritious enough, there isn't nothing material that can be offered unto the I that can account for over 500 years where a people have been kept under perpetual bondage to this very day.

Ones and ones can say all they like about how they don't wanna be held accountable for what their forebearers did when they enslaved, tortured, murdered, raped, robbed and did and did not do's. But all the so called work that has put particular categories of people into a stead fast position for the foreseable future has already been done. The work of people like Willie Lynch by use of the Christian dictrine has been assimilated long time ago and has left people in the diaspora psycologically traumatised with no Real knowledge of who they are and where they are from.

We Africans in the diaspora were kidnapped by psychos, travelled with the psycho, lived with the psycho, worked for the psycho, got raped by the psycho, ent up with little psycho children (kids*) amid other things until we assimilated the psychopathic tendencies of MASSA.

Six generations of your family being stripped of almost everything they knew and of the things that they held close to their heart doesn't deserve reparations. It's bigger than money and land. Its as big as Moses Law 'An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth'.

When one is living in the diaspora under new rules and livity and their cultural ties have been severed, you can't offer that person a speed boat and say "ok, you built up my system now you can go home". Where is home? When all that is exists in the diaspora is there to divert people's attention from TRUTH how do you make concious decissions and what are those decission based on?

No one isn't bothered these days. The category of persons who have benefitted greatly from 'slavery', why are they/you going to be bothered when everything for you/them is running the best it ever has. The secret is best kept.

I got photos of what Queen Alexandrina Victoria of Englands Uncle King Leopold did to the Congolese in the 1800s. Fortunately not all evidence is under lock and key and Kodak was trying out his cameras around this time. He (leopold) personally saw to it that Millions of Jet Black Congolese were killed or mutilated just for his own sick gains. When you go to Belgium and look at the buildings from that era, you can see how a category of people viewed life, African life. You can see how those lives were spent. There is no trace of the real story because it's been Black Out with White Wash.

Belguim isn't the only beneficiary. Many countries, seen today as the developed world, have sourced everything to make the wheels of the system turn out of Africa and places that have been inhabitied by Black people period. There is no thanks, or offering that can make me feel good about why Ghana, Gambia, Nigeria, Senegal or any of those places are still not MY home. Anyone that says go back there, I got this to say. I've been there. After the destruction, that has had a dramatically cataclysmic effect, you think things are goin to be normal or back how they were?

There is only one of two answers in my view and they are extreme. The reversal of slavery would be the magic. But this will never happen. Reversing slavery, to me, means to undo exactly what was done by way of replay but with the shoes on the other foot. Some people call this giving .. a taste of their own medicine. There would be no real solution there since using the same tac-tics to get a nation to bow to submission means things start goin in circles that can sometimes get out of control. The other is for me to hand out knive and guns and enough evidence to make people commit suicide.

As an African, I don't feel a need to kill someone, but I welcome anyone who wants to cut their own throat on web cam or in front of me. I got more to do finding my spiritual self than thinking how best to spend £777trillion with the queen of englands mug shot on it. I'd be a DICK if i bowed to £777trillion as would any other ni66er.

Just to close: we all know that the statue of liberty represents freedom. Well, it isn't exactly on US Soil. Its Offshore. The statue might represent freedom, but it's out at sea. If i want to be free as an American, I gotta leave.

[SpiritLevel]

A 1,000,000 dollar bill has Liberty on it. That is freedom for ur wallet if you get one

[Fengzi]

I agree with Sanguinekane. Paying reparations for something our ancesters did is ridiculous. Graymatter points out that Germany holds itself accountable for the horrrs of WWII. That was 60 years ago and many of those atrocities were commited by people who may still be alive. Slavery in the U.S, however, was 150-200+ years ago and I can imagine that you'd be hard pressed to find anyone alive that ever even met a slave owner, let alone owned slaves.

Assuming it was decided that reparations were due, who pays and who receives? 50% of my family came from Hungary in the 1930's, do they need to pay? The other 50% were racist bigots (one of the many reasons why the last words my Mother ever said to her parents were "fuck you..) from the South. But, although their beliefs and feeling sicken me, they were dirt poor. I seriously doubt anyone in my family ever owned slaves. Should I still pay simply because my "whiteness" makes me guilty by association.

So, we say only large corporations, those that existed at the time and benefited from slavery, need to pay. But if they pay who really pays? Some fat cat who's great, great, great, great Grandfather owned slaves? No, he'll keep getting his fat salary. Most likley it will only be the stockholders, most of whom had no ancesters that could have possibly owned slaves, some of whom might just have ancestors that were slaves, that will wind up paying.

This may not be the most PC thing to say but the Black community needs to start looking to the future instead of whining about the past. What's done is done and can never be changed. If the Black community is going to improve its situation it needs to look inward. It needs to stop idolizing rappers and gangbangers and start looking up to Black doctors, engineers, and other professionals instead of calling them sell outs. We've come a long way in this country and nearly all of the barriers to people of non-caucaision ethnicity have been lifted. We can pay reparations, have affirmative action programs, etc. etc. but the bottom line is, even if we lead the black community to the plate, it's up to them to swing at the ball.

[birdgirl73]

Come on BG you still have me........

Gosh, Bong! What a sweet sentiment. I DO still have you. But heck, I don't want to endure your anger. I find you too funny for that! Seriously, you often crack me up. Keep doing that. I like it.