Quote Originally Posted by birdgirl73
As always, Fengzi, you nailed it on the head. And I think the "crap factor" is at play in a big way here lately. I notice that fewer and fewer sane folks are participating on the politics board nowadays. I've seen enough of the paranoiac conspiracist madness now that when I see posts from Pissy, GS and a couple of others, I simply go past them without reading. They're always the same, and it's always complete lunacy. I don't waste my time either reading the rantings of, or debating, lunatics. I gather the same bypass approach is now being used by many others.
I myself have been laying off the hard core anti gov stuff.

Matter of fact i didnt even read what Piss posted, but I will say that to completely gauge a situation you need as much information as you can get your hands on, from both sides of any argument.

Trouble is its hard to tell what information to take as fact. With statistics that are no doubt bias to the producer, a governemnt that has lied, is lieing, and shows no sighns of stopping the lies, theories and biased "fear" mongering on both sides.

I can see why Piss and GS side so far um..... in the middle id say... I know Piss believes that both the left and the right have the same goal.

And I'd have to say that there is a ton of evidence that supports the 2 headed dragon proposal.

But in the end, I have to live my life, whether W and cronies are trying to take over the world or not, my immediate goal is to live my life the best I can right now.

In the past even I have argued for the same goal approach, and even now it seems to be the only one that really makes sense, trouble is I have no idea what that goal is, whether its to protect our soverinty or to take our freedoms away.

And it really makes me giggle to think that out of all the times myself or others have said that the left and the right have the same goal. NONE have ever answered "yes, your right, they do have the same goal, and thats to further our great country and to insure our democracy far outlasts the 200 year average".

The truth of it is that both the left and the right see there differences in win or lose consequences. That is to say that, if one side wins the other looses.

Seems to me that our entire game of politics in America is played as advesaries, never as a team. With them its never a win/win outcome.

Why is it set up this way?
Why are the 2 parties that have control chooseing battles that split the country?

I.E. Pro Life and anti gun laws being on the right side. (Its not ok to kill them as babies, so lets just wait till they grow up, then kill them?)

With Pro choice and gun control on the left.( You should have the right to kill a baby, but not the means to kill an adult?)

Either one makes no sense being in the same sentence together. The concepts they are based on are polar opposites.

The biggest issues the left and the right fight over are classic double think.

My favorite example of double think is a quote from my sister. " I know you dont pretend to know everything, you just act like you do."

I for one hope you and others dont completely bypass what these guys post, even tho you find most of it absurd. Simply because then I would have anyone to have a real conversation with.
Marlboroman Reviewed by Marlboroman on . ESSAY- Police state: Has common sense taken leave? i know someone here can justify what was done to the 90 year old blind woman and all the rest...what is wrong with us? look what's happened to the country and the mindset...it's really disturbing. when did it go from protect and serve to beat upside the head and mace someone? oh that's right, we all could be criminals. ESSAY- Police state: Has common sense taken leave? JOHN W. WHITEHEAD | July 7 2006 A culture of meanness has come to characterize many aspects of the nation's Rating: 5