Intelligent People are Chronics too!

[psychocat]

If you had said knowledge was 'relative' I would have grasped your sentiment judging from your explanation. To me, presenting a statement bearing 'knowledge is vague' is vague in itself. It still is vague to me even though you have re presented it. Err, 100 years ago a ni66er couldn't eat in the same restaurant h0nkey. I wouldn't bring past and future into the equation right away because they are far too many additives to put on the table that require analysis. Actually, hands down, right now, I don't have a clue what you're on about. You have made a general statement that encompasses issues that can both support and shread the actual statement in an obscure manner. I think someone paid you to derail this thread from Intelligent People Being Chronics to spiritlevel is a dumbass.. I'm going to retreat, else I'll spent a lifetime disecting paragraphs with no more gold at the end of the rainbow than I'm already assured.

I have no intention of making anyone look like a "dumbass" I am simply putting forward my opinion on the over important people who believe themselves to be superior because they consider themselves intellectualy better or in some way "educated" that puts them above others.
The surgeon who saves your life is no better a person than the man responsible for taking away your garbage even though he is probably (not always) better educated.
The main crux is my point of "all knowledge being relative to our capability to understand it and it's validity in view of how often "facts" of old are proven to be false", therefore knowledge is in a constant state of flux.

I fail to see what your remark about African Americans has to do with knowledge?
The problem wasn't one of knowledge or lack of it , it was a question of prejudice (which still exists today). Educated men did nothing too.

[SpiritLevel]

Sigh! Iâ??m going back in time. (you = psychocat)

Paulinator made the first reference to knowledge in his initial post by saying

â??â?¦I can make calculations on fan requirements and grow room efficiency easily; I can also design the BEST indoor setup with my knowledge. Anyone looking for some tips just drop me a lineâ?¦.â??

I then said in the title to my first post â??why have 1 degree of knowledge when you can have spheres?

Later on you suddenly make the remark â??Knowledge is vague at best.â?? This was at a time when very little banter had taken place over the subject 'directly'. But fair enoughâ?¦we go on

I would like to know why you said it and how it ties in to the context of the thread. I suppose I have to decipher the encrypted messages myself. My perception looks at that statement almost as a random piece of a jigsaw that has bits missing to link it to the rest of the picture.

Prior to making the statement then, you asked for someone to define â??intelligentâ??. I replied and didnâ??t use the word knowledge. What sparked the so called simple statement Knowledge is vague? Asking which is more important, a bike repairer of banker, to pick out an explanation for your statement gave me a difficult time as I was thinking too much, or not enough, or from the wrong angle..

I think itâ??s the way you present your thoughts, or better still the way I interpret your presentation of your thoughts. Iâ??m finding I have to read the entire thread 6 times over to put what you say into context.

Now that you have, again, re presented how you define your statement I further understand, i.e.
â??â?¦"all knowledge being relative to our capability to understand it and it's validity in view of how often "facts" of old are proven to be false", therefore knowledge is in a constant state of fluxâ?¦â??
That makes more sense than just stating Knowledge is vague. In fact if you take out the word relative and put vague back in, the statement makes no clear sense/or vaguely makes sense.

My knowledge was vague about knowledge-being-vague until I asked for an explanation. Then I found that the reason my knowledge was vague about knowledge-being-vague was because of the vagueness of the theory. It was revealed that knowledge-being-vague was more knowledge-being-relative. But didnâ??t we both say this already but in a round-the-garden-path manner?

I said â??I suppose being 'in-the-know' or having knowledge of something is vague until it is required to bring that knowledge to the fore.â?? This can be interpreted as knowledge being relative.

Also â??If I considered my knowledge to be vague I think it would come about because I rarely use what I know. This too means that knowledge is relative.

Assessing someoneâ??s knowledge is vague if you just stand and look at them. Provoking reactions gives better scope of someone's knowledge, then what they know becomes less vague. And this concurs that knowledge is relative.

When you asked which is more important, the bike repairer or banker, well each has their application and their importance is relative to the situation. Essentially Iâ??ve found that we actually agree even though our approaches are very different yet parallel. To say I failed to understand is true, but to say you failed to spot similarities that unite our opinion is also true.

Iâ??m not going to pursue the remark of Africans now that a resolution has been achieved which can dilute that statement by simple reading it and saying â??relative to the timeâ?? in an after thought.

[psychocat]

I hold with the use of the word vague

Not clear in meaning or application

A lot of the theories (knowledge) put forward as fact are often open to interpretation.

A persons viewpoint changes their perception.

I am not out to disagree with anyone and I can only say that I think you're taking this a little bit too personal.

My opinion is simply that until we fully understand everything, then we know nothing for certain.

There is of course the train of thought that would say that nothing of what we experience is real. Not something I subscribe to but they could be right.

I can't be 100% sure they aren't so therefore it's false of me to say they are wrong, just as it would be for them to claim 100% certain they are right.

Escape the bounds of your own senses and the world would be a much different place and all the laws would be changed forever.

Flesh is a prison only in the imagination are we truly free.

If we accept all we learn nothing.

Question everything.

I have many more questions than I will ever have answers.