Intelligent People are Chronics too!

[ThatTokenWhiteGuy]

Too bad they don't teach modesty at the university level

[Samwhore]

yep, im a pothead and im smart too!

power to us peeps!

[jamstigator]

In my opinion, colleges cater to the middle parts of the intellectual bell curve, but don't do very well with those at the extreme ends of the bell curve. I tried college, for the usual reasons: thought it would enable me to get a higher-paying job, blah blah. But it just wasn't for me, and I quit after a year.

There were two things that made college not worthwhile for me. First, I did a 4-year stint in the Army after high school, and worked a year after that, so I was 24 when I began college. I'd seen a lot of the world, had some major responsibilities, and I was just too mature to fit in with the rest of the folks. My Advanced English Comp teacher was actually younger than me, and probably knew less about english composition than me.

The second problem I had is that I am at the end of the bell curve. The summer before college began, I knew my courses, and one was a course in Pascal (a programming language). So over the summer I delved into Pascal, and by the end of the summer I had written a fairly decent 3-D modeling application with Turbo Pascal 4.0, for modeling various mathematical equations visually. (Nothing too advanced, no hidden line removal, but hey.) Then when I began college, I was stuck in a class where everyone else was figuring out how to assign strings to variables and pass them in procedures and such. I was so far beyond them that I was bored stiff. I tried to alleviate my boredom by doing more advanced stuff that interested me, like writing a prime number cracker utilizing an algorithm I developed called 'The Shifting Sieve of Eratosthenes', which uses the traditional Sieve of Eratosthenes, but shifts necessary parts of the matrix into and out of RAM as needed, so that a lower-powered computer (like a PC) could crack fairly large primes. But then I wondered, why am I paying $10k/year when I am learning more, and learning better, on my own, for free?

Colleges are pretty decent for the 90-130 IQ crowd, but if you're outside that range, at either end, odds are you're going to have some issues with college. Either they will teach too fast for you to handle, or so slowly that you simply can't stand it. I'm not knocking college. But it certainly isn't for everyone.

[Cyclonite]

Yea I did 4 in the army also, im pursuing a ME degree because it compliments what I do already and more $$. Oh and the fact I get all of it paid for by benefits I would lose if I don't use. I do it all online, don't deal with anyone except me unless I ask a question. I was an EOD tech in the army, itâ??s a thinking job by far. The army still dumbed me down a little, now that im back in school exercising my brain iv noticed im learning easier all around. Me with a BS in ME is better by far than me without one.

Math is one of my weaker points....so gotta get rid of the weakness. Itâ??s all about personal improvement. There is no end to it, should be a lifelong process. I work with plenty of people with advanced degrees and I believe myself to be more intelligent than say 80% of them.

I doubt I would go if it came out of my pocket 100%

[paulinator]

Word! Thanks for all the input in this thread guys. .

Thing is, I have a total debt of under 30K Canadian for getting my Bsc in ME. School is totally different in the US ($$$$). I became a ME to design rollercoasters, amusement park rides, waterslides, and rolling ball sculptures (RBS).

RBS's can be as creative as one makes it, the basics of these machines are: raising balls via a lift and then letting them descend in an array of rails, switches, musical instruments, and its a continous stream of dynamics. Ive seen some that acted as a large clock. Every second the ball struck a lever connected to the second arm of the clock and was timed like that. The lift was an archimedes screw lift propelled by a small electric motor. Imagine having a little tiny one in your office or something? Just chillin, can't think of anything and turn this thing on and its WOW!!! Too much to look at everywhere hehehehe... (I'm baked as hell hehehhe). I get extremly euphoric whenever I get to witness these wonders, and I'm never stoned. I have a sketch of some things I want to put in mine.

If I land the job I just got interviewed twice for, then I can start my career as a design engineer and then do some RBS's and scale rollercoasters n shit on the side cuz i'll have $$$.

I'll post if I got the job or if I'll continue sniffin glue at the woodshop... lol

[SpiritLevel]

Spiritlevel, you probably spent all day trying to figure the best sounding way to flame me. Fuck you! You don't even know me, I'm by far more intelligent than you because I can respect other people's opinions and views, and I can think on my own not finding someone's definition. If you ever took engineering with an open mind you'd realize that everything is connected, math = truth. Nothing can be created or destroyed. Everything is always going into a state of chaos. An object in motion will stay in motion until a force is acted upon it. You can think of that mathematically or spiritually. Math = spirituality = unity.

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Yeah Paulinator, you got me. I sat at my computer for several hours thinking how I can vent my inner anger at you.

True also, I donâ??t know you, and you may well be more intelligent than I. But since you donâ??t know me either I guess that is just merely a theoretical statement. You have the right to claim greater intelligence over me; people have the right to think and say what ever they want, just because they do doesn't make it right. I think the mistake you make is by telling the world it is because you have the belief that you have a more extensive capacity to respect other peopleâ??s views and opinions than I. How is this so when all I did was post my opinion which is very different to everyone elseâ??s I might add, and you then take offence? You canâ??t have props all the time!

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You probably can think on your own too, for a majority of the Worldâ??s population also have that ability. Though I think that you are too quick to say you donâ??t need to use other peopleâ??s definitions then in the second breath start blabbering on about some course in engineering. I went to the dictionary definition of a couple of words to ensure that my view was on point and not detracting from that point for the benefit of people who play with/on words. Learning and Teaching subjects is all about utilising peopleâ??s definitions both traditional and modern to get understanding. If you donâ??t need peopleâ??s definitions and you can think on your own to that extent then you need not have undergone training within any of the Worldâ??s academic institutions.

I know everything is connected; the physical and the meta-physical. I know that mathematics is a fundamental attribute to the existence of the universe and that there in; it's probably unchanged through the dimensions. I know that mathematics is either true or false, and that is why I studied maths at higher level. It is the only subject I know of that cannot be manipulated to become something else. I know â??â??energy â??â??cannot be created nor destroyed, I read that book too. I do and donâ??t believe that everything is going into a state of chaos; I see people bringing about a state of chaos in the midst of a uniquely ordered planet and/or universe. I am too familiar with laws of momentum; I think it was in the same book as energy.

Essentially those few things you mentioned are known today because Other People gave Definition to occurrences and we all use those definitions without question because its called science, or Einstein, or Tesla, or Faraday, or Pythagoras, or some dude claimed to have came up with it at a time when everyone else was asleep. IMHO The masses are just as asleep today as they were in those times.

So in conclusion, donâ??t say fuck me son, use that intelligence and keep to your word by manifesting a bit of respect for the opinion of others, while taking back the statement that you don't need other people's definitions.

[the image reaper]

just curious, any other MENSA members in here ?? .... :smokin:

[SpiritLevel]

just curious, any other MENSA members in here ?? .... :smokin:

"...Most Mensans have a good sense of humor, and they like to talk. And, usually, they have a lot to say...."

[align=right]http://www.mensa.org/index0.php?page=10[/align]

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[align=center]Lawrence G. Lovasik[/align]

I see what you are trying to say though.

[wonderbear]

I'm sorry for this long post.

Having a degree doesn't make one intelligent. I know many people with one, two, or more degrees and not all, or many of them are greatly intelligent.

Having a degree, in my personalised view, only represents one's affinity to follow a curriculum mapped out by a government. Is that intelligence? Getting a good grade doesn't mean you got the correct/truthful answer, it means your answer matches that of the person who is marking your exam paper. Essentially you have learned only what the government want you to learn and 'little' much else.

No good holding up your degree like its some great accoloade or 'what not'. It is merely a token that you have accepted a 'degree' more system programming than the average person that hasn't been certified in that way.

Intelligent, according to my dictionary, means (1) adj; clever, (2) n intellect; information, esp. military.

There ain't a fat lot clever about following in the path of academia and not questioning the legitimacy of the information brought to you, while taking for granted that the governance of the current curriculum in force hasn't fallen into disrepair like all other aspects of politics.

To be intelligent, then, is to utilise one's intellect. Intellect is the Power of Thinking and Reasoning. If one realises their intelligence only after acquiring a degree then their new found Intelligence is based on their subjugation to academic institutions.

In my view this isn't their own pure mode of thinking but an attained mode which arrives with good grades and a borrowed way of thinking gained by years of listening to teachers and lecturers who mostly have the same level of intelligence because they went through the same conditioning process.

The only good thing is that you still smoke pot and someday you might have an awakening to the façade, smoke-screen and mirrors.

i strongly agree. just not with the bold font.

[SpiritLevel]

i strongly agree. just not with the bold font.

I wanted to make it easy to read because I was stoned and pie-eyed when I composed it.

Do you have any particular reason/s that encourage you to agree?