Quote Originally Posted by antikoala
(I take it that you support the previous argument so I'm going to answer it as if it were yours)

Since you claim religion and the study of the Koran is everything Muslims' lives evolve around and that religion is about hatred, how come the globe isn't at a constant war with them during the past 15 centuries and in fact the first and last expansive "islamic holy war" ended with the conquering of spain more than 6-7 centuries ago?

Probably because they have been inundated with religion and ignorance. It's now that they are getting the technology to carry out their "destiny". Their societies have always been extremely unjust, and the religion and customs dictate this.

Why had the cry for jihad not been heard until the late 1940's when the Israeli military takeover of Palestine took place?Why did they not amass a huge army from every Muslim state back then and move to strike back at the infidels?

That's true - Israel should not be there. It was a bad move, I'll grant them that. We shouldn't send aid to Israel. It's the birthplace of the Christians' mythical savior god, so that's a big part of it, too.

Until the 90's why did every single Muslim country have peaceful relationships with the west, including even the most authoritarian states like Saudi Arabia?

Because the religious nuts took over in certain places and began preaching hatred, such as in Iran in the late 1970's. Then, the Soviets invaded Afghanistan, and we supported the radical religionists that opposed them.

Last but not least why even in dictatorships like Saddam Hussein's Iraq were religious discriminations obsolete, allowing even a christian like Hussein's minister of foreign affairs Tarik Aziz assume government positions?

Iraq is different - I wouldn't have gone there, because a secular dictatorship is better than a religious one. We should have learned that after the Shaw of Iran was deposed.

Wars and hostile situations are caused by people! And people in the scale of nations don't just wake up one day picking up their holy book and go "hey...this here says "kill". Never noticed it before..."
That's true, but the seed is there - and mistakes were made that helped them grow. It's time to do some pruning. I'd start with pulling out, and not buying oil from them - which is exactly what bin laden and his type want. If the Middle East (and other Moslem countries elsewhere) wants to have our business, they'll have to shape up - or become a third world entity.
Breukelen advocaat Reviewed by Breukelen advocaat on . Is this Occultic Imagery at Guantanamo Bay (aka Camp Delta?) I have been meaning to post this on here for a bit, but SINCE I WAS ON A LITTLE VACATION I COULDN'T! Check out this picture of Guantanamo Bay aka Camp Delta (sounds fascist right there!). In the center of the picture, it has the Pentagon with an interesting Pentagram inside with 5 circles on each point which looks like occultic imagery. This is very interesting to me as I like to study the occult. I have heard though that this is just a seal of the Military Police, but correct me if I am Rating: 5