Next time you feel the urge to bitch about the US...

[Binzhoubum]

Hey all! :smokin:

Now I like to discuss the intrinsic merits and flaws of American policy as much as the other guy/gal, but next time you want to bitch about America think about this:

http://throwawayyourtv.com/2006/04/d...rth-korea.html

http://throwawayyourtv.com/2006/05/t...orean-kid.html

If I remember correctly, someone on this fourm has said of their location something to the effect that America is a police state!!!!

HAHAHAHA....

If America is a police state, I dont smoke pot. :stoned:

I do think that America makes mistakes and I definitely DON'T agree with 90% of the what the Bush administration has done...at home or abroad.

But for the love of all mankind...I don't think it's remotely logical to call America a police state after seeing those videos.

At least we have freedom....:smokin:

Binzhoubum Reviewed by Binzhoubum on 07-02-2006. Next time you feel the urge to bitch about the US... Hey all! :smokin: Now I like to discuss the intrinsic merits and flaws of American policy as much as the other guy/gal, but next time you want to bitch about America think about this: http://throwawayyourtv.com/2006/04/dan-rather-in-north-korea.html http://throwawayyourtv.com/2006/05/talented-north-korean-kid.html If I remember correctly, someone on this fourm has said of their location something to the effect that America is a police state!!!! Rating: 5

[eg420ne]

Is that extreme sarcasm i hear .. the first video wont play the second has me confused what does that lil girl have to do with police state, is it saying she was force to be like that, if it is then we can say the same thing about alot of americans and THEIR kids as well..maybe you can load up that ratherinNK video again, maybe i can understand what you're sayin..
:thumbsup:

[pisshead]

i call the video at that link a police state...one guy gets his arm broken. the nerve of these protesting terrorists. warning, it's a little graphic. i can't even watch it again it's so disturbing. but i can't ignore it either, no matter what's happening in north korea or china or russia or the UK or canada...who are all coming under the same world government dictatorship.

http://prisonplanet.com/articles/feb...rutaltruth.htm
The Brutal Truth

i call protest-zone cages and the supreme saying you have no property rights and people having their property forcibly stolen a police state. i call cops searching backpacks for anti-wto buttons in seattle a police state.

i could care less what goes on in other countries when i see my own turning into a dictatorship.


What really happens during a pro-life rescue? Watch actual footage of pro-life arrests and decide for yourself who is "violent." If pro-lifers civil rights to non-violent protest are being trampled, how safe are the beliefs of the rest of us? This video shows the brutal answers to questions of freedom to protest.

Here's a segment of a documentary exposing the abuse of pro-life demonstrators, proving that the right as well as the left are targets of this crackdown.

[pisshead]

http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=13211

here's the original thread...someone says you see a woman with a broken arm, how do we know her husband didn't break it...i don't think too many people would go to a protest with a broken arm, i'd probably get it put in a cast first.

but that's meaningless, we see a guy get his arm broken. i'm confused as to how people can justify that scene, that's something you'd see in north korea or china or some third world dictatorship where you can't protest, and yet most people here will never see it, so that means it never happened.

people should be outraged.

[Great Spirit]

Our freedoms are slowly being taken away because of 9/11 and this "war on terror" garbage. It was the same as the Reichstag Fire which brought Hitler to full power.

Sacrificing your rights in the name of security is the one of the oldest tricks in the book to establishing a dictatorship. It sure as hell worked in Germany!

Welcome to the 4th Reich....Fascist Amerika!!!

[eg420ne]

Thanks for the links Pisshead

America is a police state, just watch, right after the next staged terrorist attack, the PatRIOT Act will be the new Bill Of Rights:thumbsup:

Man charged after videotaping police
NASHUA â?? A city man is charged with violating state wiretap laws by recording a detective on his home security camera, while the detective was investigating the manâ??s sons. But its alright for the government to do it
http://www.nashuatelegraph.com/apps/...WS01/106290121

Has This Country Gone Completely Insane?: Getting Busted for Wearing a Peace T-Shirt
By MIKE FERNER

Yesterday afternoon, drinking a cup of coffee while sitting in the Jesse Brown V.A. Medical Center on Chicago's south side, a Veterans Administration cop walked up to me and said, "OK, you've had your 15 minutes, it's time to go."

"Huh?", I asked intelligently, not quite sure what he was talking about.

"You can't be in here protesting," Officer Adkins said, pointing to my Veterans For Peace shirt.

"Well, I'm not protesting, I'm having a cup of coffee," I returned, thinking that logic would convince Adkins to go back to his earlier duties of guarding against serious terrorists.

Flipping his badge open, he said, "No, not with that shirt. You're protesting and you have to go."

Beginning to get his drift, I said firmly, "Not before I finish my coffee."

He insisted that I leave, but still not quite believing my ears, I tried one more approach to reason.

"Hey, listen. I'm a veteran. This is a V.A. facility. I'm sitting here not talking to anybody, having a cup of coffee. I'm not protesting and you can't kick me out."

"You'll either go or we'll arrest you," Adkins threatened.
http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=12792

June 28, 2006

Impaired Reasoning

Should Last Weekâ??s Joint Disqualify A Pot Smoker From Driving Today?

Jacob Sullum

A police officer pulls you over at a checkpoint and asks, "Have you been drinking?" Assuming he wants to know whether you have consumed alcohol in the last few hours, such that it might be affecting your ability to drive, you say no. "Not at all?" he asks. Well, you admit, you did have a beer the night before, whereupon he arrests you for driving under the influence.

If that scenario makes sense to you, you should have no problem with Michigan's new policy regarding driving and drug use. As recently interpreted by the state Supreme Court, Michigan law prohibits marijuana smokers from driving long after the drug's psychoactive effects have disappeared. A dozen states have similar policies, and federal drug officials think all of them should, which would in effect revoke or periodically suspend the driver's licenses of more than 25 million Americans.

Michigan law bars someone from driving "if the person has in his or her body any amount of a controlled substance listed in schedule 1," which includes marijuana, THC (marijuana's main active ingredient), and their "derivatives." So even before last week's decision by the Michigan Supreme Court, unimpaired drivers could be arrested with tiny, inconsequential traces of THC in their blood. In contrast with this "zero tolerance" rule, the legal cutoff for drinkers is a blood alcohol concentration of 0.08 percent.

The Michigan Supreme Court made the double standard worse by declaring that 11-carboxy-THC, a nonpsychoactive marijuana metabolite that can remain in a person's blood or urine for days or weeks, counts as a forbidden THC "derivative." The upshot is that many regular marijuana smokers can never legally drive in Michigan, whether they're intoxicated or not, while occasional smokers are barred from driving for days after each dose.

"It is irrelevant that an 'ordinary' marijuana smoker allegedly does not know that 11-carboxy-THC could last in his or her body for weeks," the court said. "It is also irrelevant that a person might not be able to drive long after any possible impairment from ingesting marijuana has worn off."
http://www.libertyforum.org/showflat...b=5&o=21&part=

Door To Door http://www.libertyforum.org/showflat...b=5&o=21&part=

Im sure i can post more police state news but i will wait

They say that if you put a frog into a pot of boiling water,
it will leap out right away to escape the danger.
But, if you put a frog in a kettle that is filled with water that is cool and pleasant,
and then you gradually heat the kettle until it starts boiling,
the frog will not become aware of the threat until it is too late.
The frog's survival instincts are geared towards detecting sudden changes.

This is a story that is used to illustrate how people might get themselves into terrible trouble.
This parable is often used to illustrate how humans have to be careful to watch slowly changing trends in the environment, not just the sudden changes. Its a warning to keep us paying attention not just to obvious threats but to more slowly developing ones.

[Binzhoubum]

Yeah, guys...but the point IS:

You still have the right to protest or assemble...AND they still report it in the news.

Do you think that is even a possibility in North Korea?

:smokin:

America does have some serious problems that need to be addressed in order to maintain our freedoms...I am NOT arguing about that. I agree with you all about such matters.

I am simply referring to the fact that it is nowhere near the level of some countries where people are sent to gulags for something as small as not wanting to attend a rally for the "Great Leader"...

:smokin:

[Marlboroman]

Yeah, guys...but the point IS:

You still have the right to protest or assemble...AND they still report it in the news.

Do you think that is even a possibility in North Korea?

:smokin:

America does have some serious problems that need to be addressed in order to maintain our freedoms...I am NOT arguing about that. I agree with you all about such matters.

I am simply referring to the fact that it is nowhere near the level of some countries where people are sent to gulags for something as small as not wanting to attend a rally for the "Great Leader"...

:smokin:

OK, I'll give you that N Korea is way further along as a police state than the US.

One of the things that struck me dureing that clip is the pictures of "The Great leader" being in class rooms of the children.

As is to say that big brother is always watching.

Then I'll point out that even in my own childrens classrooms they have a picture of the president on the wall, not only Bush, but Reagan as well.

And when I was in the Navy, there was a picture of Bush Sr. on the wall in my shop.

America is giveing away its freedom in the face of a threat, that much is a known fact admitted by even the most hardcore of Bushites.

Just because N Korea has 60 years on us as a police state doesnt mean America wont catch up!

[Binzhoubum]

OK, I'll give you that N Korea is way further along as a police state than the US.

One of the things that struck me dureing that clip is the pictures of "The Great leader" being in class rooms of the children.

As is to say that big brother is always watching.

Then I'll point out that even in my own childrens classrooms they have a picture of the president on the wall, not only Bush, but Reagan as well.

And when I was in the Navy, there was a picture of Bush Sr. on the wall in my shop.

America is giveing away its freedom in the face of a threat, that much is a known fact admitted by even the most hardcore of Bushites.

Just because N Korea has 60 years on us as a police state doesnt mean America wont catch up!

真的! True!

But America DOES have checks and balances that many other countries do not have...

FOR EXAMPLE, I currently live in a country that blocks GOOGLE on a REGULAR basis...WIKIPEDIA.COM is always blocked...and if you search news in the local language that has the slightest possibility of being "anti-government" it will be censored...

IF it isn't blocked, it's tracked....LOL...:smokin:

America does have serious problems....AND I don't plan on going back anytime soon...I am just an expat who is trying to point out the fact that Americans bitch too much about their situation...(which is exactly what needs to be done :thumbsup

If you don't like America, then you should try somewhere else...I am not trying to sound like my grandman or anything here. I don't mean to sound like some Conservative....(because I am most certainly not! :stoned....I just mean to say that if you want to talk about any other country you should definitely at least have a year or two of world travel under your belt. :thumbsup:

PEACE! :smokin:

[Marlboroman]

真的! True!

But America DOES have checks and balances that many other countries do not have...

FOR EXAMPLE, I currently live in a country that blocks GOOGLE on a REGULAR basis...WIKIPEDIA.COM is always blocked...and if you search news in the local language that has the slightest possibility of being "anti-government" it will be censored...

IF it isn't blocked, it's tracked....LOL...:smokin:

America does have serious problems....AND I don't plan on going back anytime soon...I am just an expat who is trying to point out the fact that Americans bitch too much about their situation...(which is exactly what needs to be done :thumbsup

If you don't like America, then you should try somewhere else...I am not trying to sound like my grandman or anything here. I don't mean to sound like some Conservative....(because I am most certainly not! :stoned....I just mean to say that if you want to talk about any other country you should definitely at least have a year or two of world travel under your belt. :thumbsup:

PEACE! :smokin:

Man, I love America, I dont want it to continue to change into a police state. Checks and balances are only usefull if they are actually applied. Case in point the patriot act which nulifies many checks and balances we are supposed to have to protect our citizens from its government.

History dictates that the average age of a democracy is 200 years which America is over the average right now, next step is dictatorship, history has proven this over and over again.

I do have several years of travel under my belt, and ive seen how people live in other countries, we have it very very good here as far as a standard of liveing. No argement from me there.

I for one am very thankfull to have critical thinking people keeping an eye on things, I only wish I had more information to think more critically on.