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[Opie Yutts]

I feel like I'm walking on egg shells here and it's pissing me off. I didn't fucking do anything. I am still waiting to be shown my exact instances of misbehaving. I gotta speak, regardless.

Plastic, I am right there with you man. I know exactly how you feel. I was trying to help some people, then all of a sudden a bunch of people started laying into me for no reason. I was like, "What the hell is going on here?" It seems like some people who shall remain nameless, were confusing me with some other people. I was getting accussed of saying all kinds of things I never said. I was being called a lier, an idiot, a moron, a ghetto grower, etc. I was a big trouble maker I guess, and as far as I know, I have been following the same rules about posting that I have been using for the past 20 years or more, and I have never been "put on notice" before. Kinda weird. All of a sudden people are using child-like tactics and put downs, I guess because they felt intimidated by me or something, and perhaps thought for the first time in their life, they stood a small chance of being proved wrong about some insignificant little thing. Who the fuck cares if you're wrong occasionally!?! It's going to happen whether you like it or not, so why the fuck act like such big babies when it happens?

Plastik, I'm there for you man. I've noticed we're not the first ones this happend to and I am sure that we won't be the last. Very unproffesional shit going on around here.

[Aaron385]

I hate to play devils advocate but you know how it goes. The F.N.G. will never get any respect! I too have disagreed with mods here (see the Catalytic heater for CO2 section) and I just let it go. I post all the evidence I have (i.e. a Telair CO2 ppm meter and that little glass tube CO2 analyzer kit both in unison showing results demonstrating that the little heater is adding massive CO2) but some people still say its not possible.

Ok, I guess thatâ??s their opinion. Some people will always refuse to think outside of the box. Come back in a couple years and they will be preaching the solutions they criticized you for (not a specific example.. just saying ppl in general).

I use to be a hot head too about it.. I was so confused why ppl refuse what I saw as obviously better solutions to things. You gotta learn to let that shit roll off.. make recommendations, if ppl listen then great.. if they donâ??t.. the price of the cash crop does not risk any deflation due to more ppl growing it right.

People also hate being told they are wrong.. human nature I guess. If you say â??you are doing it WRONGâ?�.. there is less chance I will actually listen then if you say â??that looks good.. maybe try thisâ?¦.â?�

It took me a long time to lose my hot headedness about that stuff and I still have an asshole card in my back pocket incase it ever gets really bad but for the most part I just make honest recommendations and support the people who consider the advice accordingly.

"I have been following the same rules about posting that I have been using for the past 20 years or more" - where was the internet 20 yrs ago?

[Opie Yutts]

Like I said before, I am not mad, just really confused and dissapointed. I know there are many differences of opinion and ways of doing things. I just don't understand how a moderator can get away with telling people theres no way something will work, when he has never researched it, tried it, or talked to someone who has tried it, and everyone who has tried it tells him he's wrong. Logic dictates that he is steering many people wrong by doing this, and it is compondend greatly by the fact that he is a moderator and people just assume he must really know his shit, so the other guy must be wrong - after all, the other guy is not a moderator. Then to make it worse, he basically tells people that this is the Socialists Republic of Weed Forums, and if you don't like what the goverment does, there's always the option of letting the government execute you for speaking about it.

Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutly.

[Opie Yutts]

"I have been following the same rules about posting that I have been using for the past 20 years or more" - where was the internet 20 yrs ago?

Yeah, I know. I got to thinking about that right after I posted, and tried to do stoner math involving memory cells. Well it didn't really work. But anyway, let me rephrase: I have been posting since a couple of months after posting was invented, whenever that was. Well, that might not be true either because I bet some form of posting existed long before the internet or even computers. Well, I think you know what I'm trying to say.

[Opie Yutts]

tx.freak:
I agree with you and I love your avitar. I was thinking about changing mine to a picture of my stoner cat doing that. That is assuming I'll still have an account after talking outloud. Was that chipmunk really smoking like my cat does, or just kind of investigating the pipe?

[Aaron385]

If you grow plants that are worth thousands of dollars per lb and you take all of your growing advice from somebody named "Zandor" on some msg board you deserve the shitty yield you get. (No offense Z man.. i love ya I just had to name drop!)

Buy books, read them.. read everything with a CRITICAL EYE and make your own decesions. If you cant do that.. maybe you should stick to just smokin the ganja

Anyone in their right mind questions almost everything they are told. Its ok to be wrong.. Like I was mentioning earlier.. in my cat heater thread a bunch of ppl said things like "Only a blue flame will produce the desired CO²" yet when I read the box for the heater it said "CO2" and I tracked down some more info about it.. then I setup the experiment to prove my point.. collected data and now I confidently show evidence that it works!

But did anybody jump up and down about it? nope.. thread is dead and many ppl may have a very viable CO2 producer in their camping gear that will never even know.

Your on the right track though.. you find out stuff and then you tell other ppl instead of keepin it a secret. I used those pest strips and they worked. Just take it easy on the guys that do this stuff in their free time.. I'd challenge you to find better mods who are actually willing to build hydro setups and test stuff and answer dumbass questions year after year FOR FREE. I guess the moral of the story is that its no perfect world.. I (we) do thank you for your contributions.. just take it easy on the hate.. nothin's perfect but it is pretty good here.

[tx.freak]

the chipmonk was just checkin it out ...we had just lit the pipe when this shadow appeared from no where ...as we were trying to figure out if it was the weed or we just needed glasses cleaned off ..(we was out riding the harleys) the damn thing came over and was making sounds at us ...so i joking around put the pipe down to the chipmonk and he ran over to me and started checking it out...so i put a lighter down there and fired it up ...that sucker was gone like magic ...i wish i could have taken him home ...my boxer here at the house likes to smoke. *puffpuff pass Ozzy* damn dog!!!

[latewood]

I didn't see the Co2 cat heater , or whatever thread myself...

[tx.freak]

What im thinkin is that when plastik came back ...he was mad cuz he was wrongfully accused of something or blamed and when the bann was over he came back and spoke up about it and got banned again ...give him a break ...id be mad too and im sure theres others that would be mad over it. Why keep bannin him ...theres iggy button in chat and mods in forum. Has he posted something that is not allowed in this forum ...if its more then 2 lines long i dont read it ...i say ok and just get along with everyone ...so i didnt read the terms ...ack ...im might get banned! ....

[Opie Yutts]

I don't know anything about that situation with plastik, but if that's true, that's really messed up. I have noticed a great deal of communication problems here. It seems like people are just skimming and making up stuff to fill in the blanks, then getting mad about their own stuff they made up. It also seems like poeple tend to lump several guys into one guy, then yell at them all for stuff that the others did. I don't know, either that, or us peons get sent to the twilight zone occasionally.

Or maybe we are all smoking too much.

And please don't accuse me of hating any more. I don't do that. I keep trying to tell you I'm not even mad. I got a little pissed off in the beggining when people started calling me a lier. I don't lie unless it's absolutely necessary, and that's pretty rare.

Lovin,... That's what I got.