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06-29-2006, 08:56 AM #1
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LOL! GOD FORBID POOR NEW YORK had alot of hard rain!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It must be a conservative conspiracy or Rove's doing that brought this tragedy upon you.
Originally Posted by shamrok16
You should also find out what a person believes and thinks before you run your mouth. I thought you funny liberals were all so tolerant and accepting??
LOL.
amsterdam Reviewed by amsterdam on . Global Warming I dont know enough about it. It seems important. Anyone got links or info so I can enlighten myself? Thanks ahead! Rating: 5
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06-29-2006, 08:58 AM #2
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And like I said, There are NO Scientists that have any FACTS OR PROOF that the storms are a direct result of "Global Warming". Can you name one? Nice try though.
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06-29-2006, 09:02 AM #3
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And do you have anything to back up your opinion. What scientists and where do they work? I can show you the exact same number of scientists that say that the earth moves in cycles and this is NORMAL.tOO EASY!!!!
Originally Posted by shamrok16
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06-29-2006, 02:14 PM #4
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Global Warming
There is indeed evidence that climactic events run in cycles, but there's also plenty of evidence that our plant is heating up as a result of greenhouse gases. The folks at NOAA and scientists who study core ice samples are just two of the many groups who can provide thousands of concrete, provable facts that back this up.
Originally Posted by amsterdam
The fact that you try and make this a partisan matter is an indication of either your foolishness or lack of touch with reality. Folks on every side of the political aisle ought to be concerned about the future of our planet--even those like you who seem to be aligned with the insanity party.[SIZE=\"4\"]\"That best portion of a good man\'s life: his little, nameless, unremembered acts of kindness and love.\"[/SIZE]
[align=center]William Wordsworth, English poet (1770 - 1850)[/align]
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06-29-2006, 02:48 PM #5
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I guess what makes this a partisan issue is the alignment of capitalism and religious detachment from the earth. It doesn't matter that the fabled God in Genesis said "be good stewards". As long as the earth is valued merely as a stage for interacting with a supreme being, then there's no accountability to what native americans, for example, preserved for centuries.
I'll take liberal over neo conservative entitlements...Those are my principles. If you don\'t like them I have others. -Groucho Marx
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06-29-2006, 06:21 PM #6
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Global Warming
It's actually good that people like Amsterdam are against global warming. It just shows how moronic and dumb the people who don't believe in global warming are. And Evil Karl Rove conspiracies? Wtf are you talking about man? By the way, i'm a moderate Libertarian, NOT a liberal Amsterdam (which is just another great example of the stupidity of far-right conservatives on how they brand everyone who does not share their views as liberal). Can't wait for the upcoming elections, it's gonna be great to get these assholes out of office and put in some real leadership (mabe Hilary Clinton?).
Also, Lay off the fox news Amsterdam
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06-30-2006, 06:04 AM #7
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Global Warming
Too funny.lol.
Originally Posted by shamrok16
Who is far right? I am pro-choice and I support gay marriage??
I remember very clearly all the folks saying they couldn't wait for the election in '04 cause W was out. C an you recall the exact # OF VOTES w GOT? I think it was more than any other candidate in History.
Please run Hillary!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Please, Please, Please. You must be kidding.
So all a person has to do is believe in Global Warming? Like the Easter Bunny? All I was saying was that there was NO SCIENTIFIC Proof!!! There are a million theories out there bot no facts. But I am sure you have it all figured out and everyone else dosent have a clue right?:thumbsup: Intellectuals,,, I think not.lol
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06-30-2006, 08:52 AM #8
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Global Warming
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:C...e_400kyr-2.png
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:2...Comparison.png
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming
3 links to check out. Unless your a complete idiot, the links i put up are more then enough scientific proof that the Earth's temperature has risen as a direct result from the rapid Industralization that has been going on since the early 1800s.
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06-30-2006, 09:02 AM #9
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Global Warming
Before a flamewar starts, i'm sorry I came off as hot headed when i first posted in this thread. I was literally typing while water was coming into through my front door from flooding and i'm kinda pissed about my basment.
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06-30-2006, 10:47 AM #10
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Global Warming
Of course the earth goes through natural climate change but we are accelerating these changes.
Climate change is with us. A decade ago, it was conjecture. Now the future is unfolding before our eyes. Canada's Inuit see it in disappearing Arctic ice and permafrost. The shantytown dwellers of Latin America and Southern Asia see it in lethal storms and floods. Europeans see it in disappearing glaciers, forest fires and fatal heat waves.
Scientists see it in tree rings, ancient coral and bubbles trapped in ice cores. These reveal that the world has not been as warm as it is now for a millennium or more. The three warmest years on record have all occurred since 1998; 19 of the warmest 20 since 1980. And Earth has probably never warmed as fast as in the past 30 years - a period when natural influences on global temperatures, such as solar cycles and volcanoes should have cooled us down.
“Recent warming coincides with rapid growth of human-made greenhouse gases'' - NASA
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*Greenhouse gas emissions by the US reached their highest annual total on record in 2004.
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*New international climate data show that 2005 is on track to be the hottest year on record, continuing a 25-year trend of rising global temperatures.[/align]
Recent scientific evidence shows that the greenhouse effect is being increased by release of certain gases to the atmosphere that cause the Earth's temperature to rise. This is called "global warming." Carbon dioxide (CO2) accounts for about 85 percent of greenhouse gases released in the U.S. CO2 emissions are largely due to the combustion of fossil fuels in electric power generation. Methane (CH4) emissions, which result from agricultural activities, landfills, and other sources, are the second largest contributor to greenhouse gases in the U.S.
Industrial applications such as foam production, refrigeration, dry cleaning, chemical manufacturing, and semiconductor manufacturing produce other greenhouse gas emissions such as hydrofluorocarbons (HFCs). Smelting of aluminum produces another greenhouse gas called perfluorinated compounds (PFCs). Emissions of NOx and VOC from automobile exhaust and industrial processes contribute to the formation of ground-level ozone or smog, also a greenhouse gas.
Health and Environmental Effects:
Greenhouse gas emissions could cause a 1.8 to 6.3° Fahrenheit rise in temperature during the next century, if atmospheric levels are not reduced. Although this change may appear small, it could produce extreme weather events, such as droughts and floods; threaten coastal resources and wetlands by raising sea level; and increase the risk of certain diseases by producing new breeding sites for pests and pathogens. Agricultural regions and woodlands are also susceptible to changes in climate that could result in increased insect populations and plant disease. This degradation of natural ecosystems could lead to reduced biological diversity.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...101202498.html
http://www.newscientist.com/channel/...d=KNMKGIJCKEAG
www.epa.gov/air/airtrends/ aqtrnd95/globwarm.html
considering the evidence at hand, i think even debating this is kind of silly. just look at these hurricanes, which will get much worse.
In terms of overall hurricane activity (number and intensity of storms), the 2005 Atlantic hurricane season was clearly the most active season on record...
http://www.pewclimate.org/hurricanes.cfm
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