Quote Originally Posted by seattle420
pretty hard to clone a plant that has been exposed to 12/ 12 for budding.

get em early
as soon as the fifth set of leaves appear.
in all the years ive been growing, ive yet to have any sort of problem with a plant or its yeild by trimming it, or taking a couple of cuttings. i routinely trim the "suckers" off of the lower 1/3rd of my plants during flowering with no ill effects on the plants, and always use them for cloning, especially if the plants been topped quite a bit before flowering as the suckers are usually node factories and spit out roots fairly quickly ( for a flowering plant, they usually take quite a bit longer to grow roots) from each node.