Stolen Honor

[Torog]

come over to the other politics board to see just how shallow and unthinking and superficial his statements really are.

he engages in double think and ignores detail, especially about 9.11. and he's so brainwashed by this left/right bullshit it's insane.

i'm still waiting for him to prove it was some dirty evil muslims who attacked us that day who had never flown those type of planes before, commanded by a guy in a cave.. on the other board i've posted hundreds of things pointing the finger at the government and military industrial complex's responsibility for 9.11...and he always says, maybe you have a point...blah blah blah...

he can't face reality. he thinks george dubya is a christian conservative, when that's the exact opposite of what he is. he's an anti-christian 'liberal' dictator...kind of like hitler was.

but then he just stops responding once the questions get too tough and require too much thinking...

Howdy PissHead,

Daggum,I wish you'd change your handle,you're a better man than that and I feel like I'm disrespecting you everytime I use that handle !

Yeah,I admit,that I'm just not sure how to respond to ya these days,cuz you believe what you believe,as much as I believe what I believe,and I'm just at a a loss for words most of the time. Neither one of us,has our hands on the evidence ,for the most part,to actually prove what we believe. For all I know,most of what you point out,could be close to the truth..only time will tell-till then,I gotta go with what I know and how my gut feels..and the life experience of 45 years.

I used to git bogged down with details and what-if's,till my old man taught me to keep it simple,not to run away from my mistakes,and admit when I'm wrong about things..to always put my needs ahead of my wants,to put my family ahead of myself-and when things git tough..to pray for God's help.

36 innocent children were murdered today in Iraq,and it's been a sad and tough day for me,I've prayed for them and their families,and I have no choice but to trust in God-that things will work out for the best..the incident in Russia,at the Beslan school,made me sick to my stomach and I'm still praying for the families there,as well. I'm filled with rage towards the terrorists and grief for all of the innocents that they have murdered in cold blood..we must not relent !

Have a good one...Torog

PS: I apologize for being so negative towards yankee's and liberals,I know better,I just git so frustrated with them,when they make excuses for the terrorists and brutal dictators. I really just wish we could all stand together in the fight for Life,Liberty and Justice for all.

[pisshead]

that the government is 100% responsible for 9.11 is totally documented. that governments throughout history attack their own people to declare emergency powers and eventually dictatorship is totally documented.

i'm sorry, but 19 hijackers commanded by a guy in a cave can in no way force norad to stand down. i've posted the evidence on the politics board for at least 2 years now, i've posted the lies and the double think over and over and over...

if there was any sustainable evidence that 19 hijackers commanded by a guy in a cave did 9.11 then i want to see it. as of yet, all fingers point towards the military industrial complex who had the means motive and opportunity to allow this attack to happen.

do you think you could just sit in a cockpit and fly a 757 or 767? doubtful.

listen to this interview with john buchanan, please, just listen to it to understand the history of the people we're dealing with.
http://www.prisonplanet.tv/audio/092704buchanan.htm

and then this, it's an interview with stanley hilton, currently representing over 400 victims of 911 suing the government for complicity. listen to the harrassment he's gone through, the government putting moles in his staff, his office broken into numerous times...today he called in to alex's show to tell how his office was totally ransacked and drawer fulls of documents stolen. he's been ordered face to face by a judge to drop the suit and not talk about it. why do you think the feds are resorting to these blatantly NAZI tactics to suppress this? because they love you and care about you?

http://www.prisonplanet.tv/audio/092704hilton.htm

learn history, it's full of government's doing this. it always happens, always.

[clevemire]

"However, I was offended when he stated his open dislike for anyone who is going to vote for Kerry or not vote at all.. oh yeah, and he doesn't like anyone who is a 'yankee', either. That's a large part of the country, last time I checked."

Your offended by his words? LOL! I have to laugh at that, sorry, but I find it rather funny. So basicly your saying two wrongs make a right? Your statement seems more of a excuse for hate then anything else. If your trying to imply that I am being unfair for not saying anything to Torog about his being the same way as the other guy, you might want to recheck what it is your basing that on.

"He just seems rather shallow and superficial to me."

So you thought you would return the favor? Just because someone hates you doesn't mean you have to hate them back. The left is just as guilty as the right for their hate. Liberals hate conservitives just because they are conservitive, and the same holds true in reverse. Torogs hate has bit him in the ass several times. Is it wrong to warn others the same could happen to them?

"Maybe he should think about all of the things in his house that could have been manufactured by a Kerry-voter or a yankee. Or maybe the director of a movie he likes is a 'yankee' or doesn't want to vote this time."

Oh, he has done that plenty. He would boycott his grandma if he thought she was a liberal.

"Is that really a good reason to not like someone...?"

I don't think his reasons are any better then SP's are.





"but then he just stops responding once the questions get too tough and require too much thinking..."

Your right Pisshead, he does do that. It seems to be his way of surrendering.

Toker

Well you got me. You analyzed me and broke me down. Do you feel accomplished now? And thank you for finding my negative feelings humorous. Having a black heart probably serves you well in these dark days of humanity.

Many aspects of life come down to a matter of opinion. This could go on forever, so of course I take your statements with a grain of salt, much like Torog probably takes mine. But much like you, I am just making myself heard.

And yes, I do return favors. Eye for an eye.



Thank you for your response.

[Libertarian Toker]

"But much like you, I am just making myself heard."

When your critical of others, someone may in turn be critical of you. I hope I did not offend you with my words. Do you always get offended when others disagree with you?

"Do you feel accomplished now?"

A little, yes. Did you feel accomplished after you attacked Torog? My my, you can dish it out but ya can't take it. You would be suprised at how many people are like that. You poor thing, not only did you get laughed at, but you got analyzed and broken down too. It must be just terrible for you to have that happen right after you said insulting things yourself.

"Having a black heart probably serves you well in these dark days of humanity."

I could say the same about you. If your going to insult people, you shouldn't get so offended when it comes back at ya. It makes you seem kind of shallow and superficial.

Toker

[clevemire]

Well, I have to admit. You bring up many valid points with everything you say, which I'm sure is why you delve so deeply into politics. That's why I normally stay out of such things (a normally wise decision I failed to make at this point in time).

You've made your point, and I have been beaten, but I'll most likely remain a hypocrite. I'll just have to keep my business out of this part of the forum.

[clevemire]

Damn LT. You are good. Now you have me rethinking the whole situation... I have to admit, not many people have that effect on me.

Hats off to you.

[Lulu]

Isn't this where you U.S. folks call for a group hug? ~lol~

[Libertarian Toker]

I am no reason for you to keep silent if you feel like voicing your opinion. Stick around, it's fun to talk with people that see things different then I do. I almost always learn from people that disagree with me. Please, don't be silent because of me.

Toker

[clevemire]

You're alright LT. I don't care what Lulu says about you (kidding).

[Lulu]

Just toking up after a 13day dry spell
Sure does wonderful things to your tolerance levels