Quote Originally Posted by graymatter
Marlborro, I actually respect the fact that you're holding out judgment. You seem like a thoughtful person.

And I didn't mean to offend you but I've seen enough of this to conclude it's rubbish. My point earlier was never really answered. How can an entire U.S. CONGRESS conspire to give LBJ a blank check based on the Gulf of Tonkin incident/non? The answer is they gave it to him because they were sleeping on the job, and he pretty much started our failed policy in Vietnam, but it wasn't anywhere close to world domination.

One correction, don't assume I'm immature because I give flip and satiricle responses.... Peace.
I dont think that AJ was makeing Tonkin bay out to be a play for world domination, but rather offering it as historical evidence as to attacks that have been committed by governments on themselves.

When you put your imagination to it you can come up with a whole slue of outcomes and reasons to what is going on, around the world and here at home. With that in mind I'll say that there are entirely too many cenarios to make a guess. Which in my eyes is what AJ is doing, he's makeing an educated guess, nothing more. I think he believes what he is saying to be true.

I also have seen too much evidence to completely discount what the man is saying, altho that doesnt mean I have to believe it as he does.

This is the ability to have empathy, to understand what and how someone believes without shareing their emotion for it.

Correction noted, to call you imature is not valid.