Thanks for vyour responses gents, From the begining,, I started with quility seeds from a repitable vender , doc cronic. The seeds were Kali mist, white russian, and white rhino. seeds were started in earliy april,using jiffy mix and peat pots. The sprouts were kept under 24 hour floressence for roughly 3 weeks. then they were transplanted into1 gal. pots. the soil was good humus mixture from the compost pile. I sent for a soil sample, it read, ph 7,high p and k, med in n, adjustments were made with blood meal. Up untill this pointeverything has been great, no health problems.I srarted hardening off my plants out side and bringing them in at night under flos for about a week untill they were ready to stay outside for good. This is when the flowering started, I thought no big deal they will come out of it, The shock from 24 hour lights to 10 was the problem . Give them a week or two and theyed come out of it. this is when i started making a few post. I kept the plants untill the end of may repotting into 3 gal pots they recieved full sun all day. the pots were mulched heavily with straw to keep the roots from over heating. The plants continued to flowering not heavily or to from any bud ,but as the plants grewthere were alwayhairs at the internodes maybe 10 to 20 the plants were healthy lush green foliage very bushy, but then the fingers on the leaves strated to back down to 3 . the plants never really started to strech like normal. The time come to but them in the ground out in the crountry. I dig big holes mix in myhumus soil , plant my babies, and top dress them with blood meal. i come back 2 weeks later, there growing , the kalis were growing normal , but half the white russians and rhinos were still try to flower and still had only3 fingers. I went to pay them a visit this weekend after some good rains and hot weather( this is where i get my good growth from in the past) they were 3 to 4 feet tall, healthy bushy, the russians is the most complexed branched ive ever seen, that stain is very, very bushy. same ole shit 3 fingers and trying to flower. I think im going to have to deal with this and hope for the best. But id like not to have this problem next year I hope you guys can help me out on this. pic will be comming this weekend. Gk your dvds see more buds look interesting. anything for the out door grower in there? Thanks guys Buzz