Report: Hundreds of WMDs Found in Iraq

[minnesota man]

You keep questioning Bush's timing of releasing information. I would consider it good political stratagy. The news of wmd's is crucial to who? The Democrats. So why not let them keep digging their hole and then let them have it?

[pisshead]

Sean Hannity And Rick Santorum Cling To Discredited "Finding" Of WMD in Iraq

Newshounds | June 22 2006

What a coincidence that one week after Karl Rove urged Republicans not to make excuses for going to war against Iraq and to put critical Democrats on the defensive, Senator Rick Santorum (R-PA), 18 points behind in his re-election efforts, and representative Peter Hoekstra (R-MI) suddenly came up with some report that 500 chemical weapons have been found in Iraq. Almost the entire hour of Hannity & Colmes last night (6/21/06) was devoted to this â??discoveryâ?� despite the fact that FOX Newsâ?? own Jim Angle had already reported that the Bush administration said the weapons were not in useable condition and were not the WMD's for which we went to war.

The entire show was filled with â??FOX News Alertsâ?� about the report. â??This is exactly what we suspected he had,â?� Hannity crowed, before adding, falsely, â??This is only a part of why we went into Iraq.â?� But he never asked either Santorum or Hoekstra, both of whom appeared on the show, about the administrationâ??s response or the likely degraded condition of the chemical weapons.

In fact, it wasnâ??t until Alan Colmesâ?? portion of the discussion that Jim Angleâ??s reporting was even mentioned. â??Jim Angle, who reported this for FOX News, quotes a defense official who says these were pre-1991 weapons that could not have been fired as designed because theyâ??d already been degraded and the official went on to say these are not the WMDâ??s this country and the rest of the world believed Iraq had and not the WMDâ??s for which this country went to war. So the chest-beating that the Republicans are doing tonight, thinking this is a justification is not confirmed by the Defense Department.â?�

Santorum pooh-poohed that by saying â??Iâ??d like to know who that Defense Department spokesperson is. The fact of the matter is, Iâ??ll wait and see what the actual Defense Department formally says or, more importantly, the administration formally says.â?� The Defense Department's comments were deemed credible enough to post on FOXNews.com but Santorum insisted that the weapons â??couldnâ??t be maybe fired efficiently but they certainly could be used in a terrorist incident.â?�

Colmes noted that the White House has been silent â?? which Santorum could not account for.

Colmes, who was at the top of his game in this segment, further said that Santorum is 18 points behind his challenger. Wasnâ??t this â??a desperate attemptâ?� by Santorum to re-establish himself â??in a race in which youâ??re not doing very well.â?�

â??Who said that?â?� Hannity peevishly interjected, although heâ??s not supposed to interrupt Colmesâ?? portion.

Hoekstra insisted that the report undermined Democratic criticism of the war when â??We all knew before the war that Saddam had chemical weapons of mass destruction.â?� Comment: Yes, but as Chrish reported, "The UN Weapons Inspectors declared in 2004 that there were no WMDs of any significance in Iraq. Despite that, Hoekstra insisted this new report â??created an overwhelming case about how dangerous this regime was.â?�

Colmes posted a statement from the Iraq Survey Groupâ??s final report. â??While a small number of old, abandoned chemical munitions have been discovered, ISG judges that Iraq unilaterally destroyed its undeclared chemical weapons stockpile in 1991.â?� Colmes added, â??This is pre-1991, sirâ?¦ These are degraded. Theyâ??re not useableâ?¦ Thereâ??s nothing new here.â?�

Colmes must have been getting under Hannityâ??s skin. As he ended the segment, he said â??Great job!â?� to Santorum and Hoekstra and â??jokinglyâ?� continued, â??If theyâ??re so confident theyâ??re degraded, maybe we can drop it off at a liberalâ??s house, see if theyâ??ll store it in their garage.â?�

[Fengzi]

I'm not surprised that we would eventually find some old mustard gas bombs buried out in the desert. We'd probably find just as many if we dug up all of Germany. Still its a far cry from Saddam being a madman, bent on world destruction, with an active wmd program. The fact that Ol' Dubya hasn't stepped up saying "told ya so" say's a lot.

[iamapatient]

Again:
"This is an incredibly â?? in my mind â?? significant finding. The idea that, as my colleagues have repeatedly said in this debate on the other side of the aisle, that there are no weapons of mass destruction, is in fact false,"

Of course it's false. They know most of the lies the liberals tell are false. The fact of the matter is there were WMD's in Iraq that Saddam claimed he didn't have and was NOT allowed to have despite their age.
The actual report itself says (last page):
http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/...classified.pdf
"While agents degrade over time, chemical warfare agents remain hazardous and potentially lethal"

We've already dealt with the bad intelligence issue, that the whole world had, this directly disputes the idiots that are still claiming that there were no WMD in Iraq. Saddam was in violation of every UN resolution, including the last one.

No your party is the anti-gay ones, your the ones that want gays from not doing what they want, its your party that brings that gay issues up and all im doing is repeating it for you so you dont forget:thumbsup:

In your inbred world, MY party is anti-gay and you're the retard spewing homophobic comments? Good luck with that delusion, kid. While you can try to stick with your peewew herman version of "I know you are but what am I" but I'm not the one posting homophobic hate speech, I'm just pointing out that YOU are. You're one worthless pos hypocrite. Does it hurt to be as stupid as you must be?

[eg420ne]

Quote from iamadumbass In your inbred world, MY party is anti-gay and you're the retard spewing homophobic comments?

LMAO I guess you miss my satire in that, Go ahead and find them homophobic comments remarks I made about gays cause the only ones your gonna find are the ones said in jest and its about flags, and how your party hooks your dumbass up with that anti-gay marriage thingy, just like your president said this in jest
"If this were a dictatorship, it would be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator," Bush joked.



typical right-wing trash miss it all the time its not your fault your trap in the neo-cons Web of Deceit..Im am far from being homophobic(:upsidedow trust me I would know:upsidedow )on the other hand it is your party that spouts out anti-gay crap whenever they need a boost in the polls so good luck in convincing me im homophobic:thumbsup: ...Hey iamadumbass hereâ??s a FLAG and donâ??t forget to vote republican because Diebold cant do it all..

Oh yeah im too tired to stay up all night so your gonna have to play with yourself unless you want to get a room

[Miss Green]

Yeah ok and if thats truely the case why then are we still there in Iraq?If thats truely the case.What, and these so called 500 weapons would of really destroyed America?Yeah, they proberly did find weapons but ones that weren't usable anymore that had been sitting there for decades!What a joke.

[iamapatient]

Quote from iamadumbass...
LMAO I guess you miss my satire in that...

Typical POS homophobe, now you try to claim you were only joking. I've never heard THAT one before. If you weren't always mangling names of those you hate (like the "flag") I might have to give you the benefit of doubt but you're clearly just a worthless brainwashed myrmidon.

Good luck with your delusions...

Yeah ok and if thats truely the case why then are we still there in Iraq?

Becuase the job isn't over yet. Because the Iraqi government and people want us to stay until they can do it themselves (President Bush's plan) then we'll leave. We displaced their former government, we cant and wont just cut and run despite the cowards on the left.

"There are too many people who imagine that there is something sophisticated about always believing the best of those who hate your country, and the worst of those who defend it." - Margaret Thatcher

[Binzhoubum]

Thank you for admitting that you dont care if they find WMD because your hate is about something else, entirely.

We all know that we had some bad intelligence, President Bush has admitted that we thought we'd find more than we had and the Senate Select Committee on Intellignce found that we relied too much on UN Intelligence. President Bush was also told that there were no more WMD's in Iraq but that was clearly wrong too. Why do you ignore the parts that don't support your delusion?
"The purity of the agents inside the munitions depends on many factors, including the manufacturing process, potential additives and environmental storage conditions. While agents degrade over time, chemical warfare agents remain hazardous and potentially lethal,"
"This is an incredibly â?? in my mind â?? significant finding. The idea that, as my colleagues have repeatedly said in this debate on the other side of the aisle, that there are no weapons of mass destruction, is in fact false,"
"Despite many efforts to locate and destroy Iraq's pre-Gulf war chemical munitions, filled and unfilled pre-Gulf war chemical munitions are assessed to still exist,"
"Use of these weapons by terrorists or insurgent groups would have implications for coalition forces in Iraq. The possibility of use outside Iraq cannot be ruled out,"
"One or two of these shells, the materials inside of these, transferred outside of the country, can be very, very deadly."
"Fear that Saddam Hussein might use his alleged arsenal of chemical and biological weapons was a reason US officials gave for launching the March 2003 invasion of Iraq."

What's with you intollerant, homophobic liberals? "FlAG"? Pathetic, reduced to anti-Gay hate spews now. So.....progressive.

No offense man, but really...EVERYONE knows why we really went to war. Energy concerns. Who gives a shit what the Right or Left say? Its all usless doubletalk.

THIS IS ALL ABOUT BUSINESS. The international community, and such...No one gives a shit about WMD's or Terrorists. Its all about business...

:smokin:

[iamapatient]

Oh please that war for oil retardation doesn't hold water either. Are you completely brainwashed?

The anti-war crowd are short-sighted. I care about terroists, especially terrorists with WMD, What I don;t worry about is corporations and retarded socialist conspiracy theory. Coca-Cola isn't the enemy, It's the terrorists, the lowlife appeasers and the moral relativists that defend them.

[Binzhoubum]

Typical POS homophobe, now you try to claim you were only joking. I've never heard THAT one before. If you weren't always mangling names of those you hate (like the "flag") I might have to give you the benefit of doubt but you're clearly just a worthless brainwashed myrmidon.

Good luck with your delusions...




Becuase the job isn't over yet. Because the Iraqi government and people want us to stay until they can do it themselves (President Bush's plan) then we'll leave. We displaced their former government, we cant and wont just cut and run despite the cowards on the left.

"There are too many people who imagine that there is something sophisticated about always believing the best of those who hate your country, and the worst of those who defend it." - Margaret Thatcher

Gee...I didn't think the Iraqi people wanted us there at all! :smokin:

Maybe I am just smoking some really good shit, huh?

How could I have been so wrong? I mean just because another country bombs the shit out of your country and subsequently invades and occupies it for several years doesn't mean they aren't welcome! LOL :smokin:

Seriously, Iamapatient this has nothing to do with people hating a country or defending a country. Today's wars are ONLY about business. Not ideology. Today's wars are about balancing the trade defecit, maintaining jobs in the military-industrial sectors, and winning the race for energy and natural resources.

Sure, terrorists threats exist, but they are so obviously blown out of proportion but the media so as to instill a certain amount of fear in the citizens to keep them distracted from what's really going on...economic problems (unemployment, inflation, devaluation) are much scarier than terrorists to the average citizen because the effects of such economic problems are easily seen and felt by all...

The world is a big marketplace with fierce competition and another country threatening the economic superiority of the US is far more dangerous than any isolated terrorist attack.

PEACE :smokin: