AAAHHH SPIDER MITES!!!

[Opie Yutts]

Hardon, I did not even bother reading all your reply because you are just like Zandor and the other narrow minded people who think they know everything about things they have not tried or heard of.

Obviously you did not read everthing I wrote about spider mites, or you would have seen that people are trying them and they are working. They have worked for many, many people. They workded for me. Period. And yes, I know what a spider mite is. Why is is so hard to believe that a toxic dangerous chemical could permiate the air and kill mites? Seems pretty straight forward to me.

Go ahead laugh, while myself and many others continue to enjoy many years of mite free crops, all because we decided put our arrogance and skepticsm aside and try a $9 pest strip. It's people like you that make me want to shoot myself in the face.

And thanks for calling me a moron and idiot, after I spent hours trying to help you. I really appreciate that, you moron.

[Zandor]

Hardon, I did not even bother reading all your reply because you are just like Zandor and the other narrow minded people who think they know everything about things they have not tried or heard of.

Obviously you did not read everthing I wrote about spider mites, or you would have seen that people are trying them and they are working. They have worked for many, many people. They workded for me. Period. And yes, I know what a spider mite is. Why is is so hard to believe that a toxic dangerous chemical could permiate the air and kill mites? Seems pretty straight forward to me.

Go ahead laugh, while myself and many others continue to enjoy many years of mite free crops, all because we decided put our arrogance and skepticsm aside and try a $9 pest strip. It's people like you that make me want to shoot myself in the face.

And thanks for calling me a moron and idiot, after I spent hours trying to help you. I really appreciate that, you moron.

I have about had it with you!!!!!

listen to me once again.....

YOU may think you have cured your problem and you MAY think your shit don't stink but I for one am getting sick and tired of you running about this forum trying to either pick a fight with me or worse try to portray me as ignorant & narow minded. From what I see your grow closet is just above a ghetto grow. You have no room to talk and limited skill from what I see.

I have tried to be nice with you. I am sure you feel you are correct but you are only dealing with a very small area. It may even have worked for you....but if you say it works so well then why in another thread did you say you can look at the eggs under the leaf. You said you can see them in their eggs too. Well if you took care of your problem so well with your pest strips so long ago. (Because that is what you told me was that it has worked for you for many years I believe).

Then how can you still see them and their eggs?

You have pushed me to my limit and you have been put on notice please chill out.

Your anger and your attitude is not welcome here.

Chill out and behave. You have a right to disagree but you must be respectful and courteous.

You have been educated and warned again. If you are not happy here then I understand that too. You have brought this all on by your self and you are 100% responsible for your actions and their cause and effect.

[HARDDON]

And thanks for calling me a moron and idiot, after I spent hours trying to help you. I really appreciate that, you moron.

The day I need to get advice from you is long past.:dance:

And when did you ever spend a minute helping me????

You don't even know how to read a thread properly.

You don't know what a chlorophyl feeding spidermite is or you wouldn't be looking for them on snakes or anything else other than plant matter. If you had read the whole post, you would have seen that spidermites prefer plant foilage to snake / rodent breeding 100 out of 100 times.

The only fricking reason a spidermite would be on a snake is to hitch a ride.:thumbsup:

No plant?

Spidermite dies.

End of story.

[Opie Yutts]

YOU may think you have cured your problem
I do and I did. The mites, their eggs, and all traces of them have been gone for 6 or 7 harvests I think. All from one pest strip. I guess that means I cured the problem.

I for one am getting sick and tired of you running about this forum trying to either pick a fight with me or worse try to portray me as ignorant & narow minded.
I am not trying to pick a fight with you. I don't know how you got that impression. When someone responds to your disagreement with them, that does not necessarily mean that they are picking a fight. People are allowed to talk. That's kind of what this forum is all about. This is absolutely nothing, believe me. You ought to see some of the shit I've been through with real, actual assholes on some other non-weed sites. I have never seen anything close to it on this weed forum or any others. If you can't take someone disagreeing with you, then you had best not engage in discussions. I do not think you are ignorant about weed. In fact I believe the exact opposite. However I do think you are ignorant about one very small part of weed farming. That would be Spectracide's Bug Stop Pest Strips. They work period. There is just no way around it. Not only do they work, but quite well I might add. Everyone that has tried them, that I know of, has joyfully reported back that yes, even though they were positive the strips wouldn't work, they did. Just read all the spider mite threads that I posted in and you will see what I mean now. People have tried them, and what the fuck, it must be some kind of friggen miracle or something, because they worked. Real glad I took the $9 gamble, and such. Or do you also think these people are insane like me? As far as narrow minded:
nar.row-mind.ed (narâ??o minâ??did), adj. having a prejudiced or self-rightous mind.
Wouldnâ??t the very definition of this be: I know something wonâ??t work. I know a lot about this thing, even though I havenâ??t read about it much, or much less tried it myself. I have never read, or even heard of one scientific (or non-scientific) study of it, or heard of a report from an average Joe who tried it. However I am really knowledgeable in this area, so there is â??no way in hellâ?� you will ever convince me that it would work. If you think that it worked for you, youâ??re obviously just some idiot who has no clue what youâ??re talking about. ??? Iâ??ll let you decide. Just keep in mind the definition of the phrase.

From what I see your grow closet is just above a ghetto grow.
Nice, real nice. Way to address the valid points of our discussion. My closet happens to be about as high tech as it can get except for co2 and automatic dosers, which are coming soon. I wonâ??t go into a lot of detail defending my closet at this point, because I donâ??t really think thatâ??s relevant to the conversation. Iâ??ll just say this for now: stadium scrog (do you even know what this is? and if so, is it becasue of me being the only one to post about it?), 400 watt MH veg side cool tube, 600 watt HPS bud side cool tube, digital ballasts, ample ventilation, aero-style cloning, hybrid combination of drip and NFT, 2 jets per root mass (32 total), two big pumps, two smaller circulation pumps, overkill nutrient aeration through various methods (this is the key, people) mylar most surfaces and white others, Green Air timers, most expensive light bulbs you can buy, mother section hosts 4 wonderful varieties on a heavy duty, full extension drawer, and most importantly, awesome harvests every 60 days. Sure a couple things are homemade, but they are done right and work well. A little over $3000 when Iâ??m all done. I am not trying to win the cover of Bud Digest with my closet, but I really wouldnâ??t call it just one step above a ghetto grow. Probably more like 1 1/2. Again more expert opinion on things you know nothing about, unless this really is your version of a step above a ghetto grow. Itâ??s not mine however.

You have no room to talk and limited skill from what I see.
Great, more insults. I have been growing weed off and on for about the last 24 years or so, mostly in dirt. The past 4 years have been hydro and the past 2 have been SOG with screen (SCROG). I have had many mishaps and remedied them all, including spider mites. How limited is that? Granted, itâ??s maybe not expert level, but certainly not novice. And please tell me again why I have no room to talk? I thought thatâ??s what this forum was for. Or am I just not allowed anymore?

I have tried to be nice with you. I am sure you feel you are correct but you are only dealing with a very small area.
Me too, and my point exactly. Is it really possible for you to know more than everyone else about every little small point of weed farming, such a pest strip? Couldnâ??t it be that perhaps there is someone out there in the world who might actually know more about a pest strip than you? Perhaps someone who bothered to research it, or maybe even someone who actually tried one? I have not been saying you are mistaken about any other area of weed farming.

if you say it works so well then why in another thread did you say you can look at the eggs under the leaf. You said you can see them in their eggs too. Well if you took care of your problem so well with your pest strips so long ago. (Because that is what you told me was that it has worked for you for many years I believe). Then how can you still see them and their eggs?
I said this because it is true that you can look at eggs under the leaf. Thatâ??s not really so weird is it? You can even see them with the naked eye if you have good vision. I believe I said that if you do this a few hours after administering the strip you will see the babies dead in their tracks. Is this what you are talking about? I donâ??t think I said you can see them in the eggs, but maybe you can. I donâ??t remember doing this though (seeing them in the eggs). And please point out exactly where I said that I can â??stillâ?� see them. I donâ??t think you will be able to because I donâ??t think I said that. If I did, I must have been really out of it, because I have not seen any sign of them for about 2 years now. I think I mentioned this several times, therefore it would be impossible for me to still see them. I think there is communication failure somewhere here that is contributing to confusion and possibly a small amount of anger (not from me). Perhaps you are just skimming?

You have pushed me to my limit and you have been put on notice please chill out.
I did not mean to, but, cool. I donâ??t think Iâ??ve ever been on notice before. Now I know what it feels like. Kinda like, really cool. Iâ??m such a fuckin rebel. Has anyone ever done this to you before? They must have, because it apparently takes next to nothing to push you to your limit.

Your anger and your attitude is not welcome here.
Is (are) yours?

Chill out and behave. You have a right to disagree but you must be respectful and courteous.
I agree, and I didnâ??t realize I was unchilled. However, it may be quite helpful to me and possibly others if you could be so kind as to point out exactly how I misbehaved. Was it my unnecessary and rampant use of the â??Fâ?� word? Additionally, it would be helpful if you could point out exact instances of my disrespect and my discourteousness. I canâ??t for the life of me remember any. In fact, I think I remember complimenting you and saying that I appreciate you several times. Unless perhaps you are talking about the time I asked if I could be so bold as to suggest it is poor moderating to say that you are an absolute expert on something that you have not tried, or even researched, even when everyone who has tried it or researched it, disagrees with you (re-read the posts). Iâ??m sorry but I just canâ??t change my view on this. Please donâ??t get me wrong, I am not talking about you in general; only one instance of something you happened to be wrong about. I guess this must sound really wierd to you, but believe it or not, it is possible for humans to be wrong. I have agreed with nearly everything else I have ever heard you say, and found much of your advice very helpful. I have told you this before.

You have brought this all on by your self and you are 100% responsible for your actions
WTF? Brought what on? A discussion about pest strips? If my contribution is so bad, why are the related threads getting so long, and why have so many people thanked me?

Hey, I got an idea: How much have you spent on your set up over the years? What has your book cost you? Considering that, wouldnâ??t it be worth it to know for sure, before you finish your book? (I assume you address the issue of pests.) What if, and bare with me for a second because Iâ??m going way out on a limbâ?¦ what if there was a small chance that the strips might actually work, like everyone who has tried them says they do? And what if there were a slim chance that pest strips (the right ones) were actually the most convenient and the least expensive solution to a problem that really should be addressed in any weed book. Wouldnâ??t it be worth it to know for sure? I mean, a pest strip costs $9 and research is free. You wouldnâ??t want to seem unknowledgeable about anything in your book, would you?

Still love ya, no matter your decision about keeping me around.

[Opie Yutts]

The day I need to get advice from you is long past.
So this means there once was a day. Glad you've finally ascended to my lofty level.

And when did you ever spend a minute helping me????
Every time I spent a minute typing about spider mites, or anything else of mine you've read, except for the few times I asked for advice.

You don't even know how to read a thread properly.
WTF are you talking about? I probably read threads better than you, with one eye tied around my penis. (No jokes about my penis here, its gigantic.)

You don't know what a chlorophyl feeding spidermite is or you wouldn't be looking for them on snakes or anything else other than plant matter. If you had read the whole post, you would have seen that spidermites prefer plant foilage to snake / rodent breeding 100 out of 100 times.
Again, WTF are you talking about? I don't care what a chlorophyl feeding spidermite is, but I assume you are talking about the common two spotted spider mite. I am not looking for them on snakes, I don't know where you got that. "If you read the whole post" you would know that. However, I have mistakenly chopped up a snake or two during mowing. I am not even looking for them on plants anymore, because about 2 years ago I completely ridded myself of them by using 1 pest strip. I know you don't believe it, and that's fine. But it is true. It did happen. You are only hurting yourself by not believing me and all the others who say that it is true.

The only fricking reason a spidermite would be on a snake is to hitch a ride.
Who cares? I thought we were talking about whether or not a No Pest Strip can kill spider mites on weed plants.

[Opie Yutts]

The day I need to get advice from you is long past.
So this means there once was a day. Glad you've finally ascended to my lofty level.

Ignore the following if you are not comically challanged:
The above quote to harddon was meant in a spirit of sarcasm.

[slowthestone]

Maybe its time for you kids to just accept that different people prefer different methods....maybe one is more effective, maybe just as effective or ineffective.

As well as different growing environments, different strains, techniques...etc means theres bound to be a divergence in opinion.

Opie, you stick with the strips.

Zandor, you stick with the bombs.

Hardon, ever heard of priapism?

[Opie Yutts]

I realize different methods work. I even said I believe Zandor when he tells me the bombs work. Why would he lie to me about this? And why would I lie to him about the strips? I just don't get it. It just really dissapoints me that everyone seems to look up to Zandor, so they will not believe me, and they will continue to do things the hard way because Zandor, a guy who has has never tried a strip, says they don't work. Well, I take that back, now he has changed his mind and agrees that they might work on real small projects, or ghetto grows like mine. Well, why not big professional rooms then? Just use more of them. Kind of like you would if you were using bombs. Again, I just don't get it.

[slowthestone]

Doesn't the quote of Twain say it all?

Education is when you remember what you have learned after you forget what you were taught. -M.Twain


So as soon as one is done reading what Zandor has to put out...forget about it...and then go learn on your own, then apply your new found knowledge the way you see fit.

It's YOUR <---(applies to anyone) grow. How you see fit to conduct it is entirely up to you. Just as long as you're paying attention when ya screw something up...same for when you get a positive result!

The bickering ought to be confined to healthy debating. And the insultive name calling crap flat out has no place in a learning environment.

[HARDDON]

I can see the day when under the name OPIE I shall see the word BANNED.

Until such day, you remain full of Sh*t.

Keep smoking your pest strip fumigated weed. It's working real wonders on your brain.

Now go on back to your ghetto grow.
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For everyone else who has spider mites, soap and water every single day, every single leaf for 14 days. Stems as well.

Or start over.


And when you can grow from seed to this in 33 days, with nothing but CFL, I'll listen to your advice.