GK...that was an empty bubbler awaiting the cuttings i took for the thread cloning directly to hydroton bubbler...or something like that. Bottom left in pik, Is my 1st little bubble cloner, thread was clones in 10 days/homemade bubbler.

I don't grow using these...I use them for seedlings and cloning...remember I have the big 1000w horti and a couple 1000w red MH's, I have been early vegging under 250hps, just to see what difference was, but I use fluoros exclusively for cuttings and seedlings...tubes and cfl's

I will find the 200 and 150w cfls for ya...Actually you know harddon used 125w cfl's with the red/blue spectrum.

be back, when i find the link for you guy's