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    #11
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    Medicinal use YES OR NO

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Masta
    No. None of us have any need for it and it doesen't improve upon any current medical treatment available. Everyone who smoked marijuana, does it to get high, plain and simple.

    Anyone actually expecting to legalize marijuana based off medical uses are in for a huge disappointment. Its not going to happen and the DEA has already made that pretty clear.. Thats not to say I agree with them AT ALL, but their authority far outweighs the illegal pot smoking community.

    Now on the other hand, a benefit of information about medical marijuana, leads to an enlightened view on the "drug", rather than a lot of the previous marijuana propoganda going around in the past. This helps to get a good word around for the herb, as majority rules, and as soon as such a high amount of the population smokes it, then serious things will start changing since it will finally be accepted in society.
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    #12
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    Medicinal use YES OR NO

    When I was 3 years old, I was a brat. One day I saw a neighbor boy putting up a tent (one with tent pegs). I started pulling the pegs out while he was on the other side of the tent.He came around the side of the tent and took the hammer he was using and began striking me very violently. I have about a half dozen dents in my skull because of this attack. There are also several scars hidden by my hair. I have suffered from headaches and migraines as far back as I can remember. When I was 19, I found that cannabis all but eliminated my migraines and headaches! It also eases my sore hip and knee. I am now a "legal" MMJ user. I am 59 years old and have been toking steadily since I was 19. Yes, I like the high, but also YES! it is medicinal. I have a 200 page notebook that I have compiled of (mostly) one page scientific abstracts on cannabis, THC, CBD and endocannabiods and their role in healing. Start your own note book! Just run a search on --cannabis, abstract, ________ (cancer, diabetes, alzheimer's, MS, fibromyalgia- take your pick! Then take it to your doctor- or send it anonymously) I started my note book less than 6 months ago. If I can find that much in less than 6 months-- well that's a LOT of proof that marijuana is medicinal.

    And all of you medical users, I have a friend (whom I've never met) named Randy Brush. He's a medical user in Ohio and recently got 3 years for 4 plants! Could you find the time to drop this poor dude a line? You can read about him at Http://FREERANDYBRUSH . He's crippled (uses a wheel chair most of the time) and really sick and a letter really makes his day! He's been happily pissing off the COs by teaching everyone about medical marijuana and how to grow it. (The man grew some killer trees). His ex turned him in.

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    #13
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    Medicinal use YES OR NO

    Quote Originally Posted by Buggsy
    Marijuana: Yes or no to medicinal use?
    The Tartan Online
    Pittsburgh, PA May 3, 2006 -- The use of marijuana for medical purposes has been debated for many years. While some consider the plant to be a phenomenal ailment reliever, others believe that the psychoactive and harmful effects overpower the possible benefits. In the most recent chain of events, on April 20, the FDA rejected medical use for marijuana. Although a number of states have passed legislation allowing for marijuana to be used medically, the FDA says that these laws are inconsistent with the new rulings.

    Canada has taken a different route from the U.S., however, and has allowed for medical testing and prescription use of the substance. Canadian researchers have recently discovered that marijuana can cause the neurons in the brain to regenerate.

    Marijuana has been on the medical scene in the US since the beginning of the 19th century. Doctors recommended that it should be sold over the counter as a pain reliever, but it soon lost popularity with the development of aspirin. In 1937, Congress passed the Marijuana Tax Act, which eventually led to use of the substance being criminalized. The American Medical Association was the solitary opponent to this legislative step. Since that time, marijuana has been outlawed by the federal government and has been banned for medicinal use.

    In the 1960s, marijuana was found to reduce intra-ocular (internal eye) pressure and helped patients with glaucoma, helping to prevent blindness. It was also found to eliminate the nausea experienced during cancer chemotherapy. Lastly, marijuana was found to control muscle spasms associated with spinal cord injury.

    The part of marijuana that is responsible for the ??high? condition associated with the drug was found to be delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol, or THC. The chemical compound was isolated, approved by the FDA, and sold under the name Marinol. Marinol had too many side effects and was too expensive for the common person. Smoking marijuana also immediately releases THC into the blood stream, while taking a capsule took an hour before relief was finally felt.

    In 1996, California permitted patients to use marijuana for medical purposes. This led to political contradictions because a state law conflicted with a federal law. The public disagreed with laws that restricted patients?? use of marijuana. The federal government then decided to modify their policies. They did not change their perspective on outlawing marijuana, but allowed for more marijuana research in order to better understand its effects.

    The reliability of medicinal marijuana research has been questioned. This is because an effective placebo for marijuana cannot be created, as traditional research methods require. A placebo is an inactive substance that is given as a control and has no therapeutic effects. Using humans as subjects, two groups would have to be created, one that received marijuana and one that did not. The psychoactive properties of marijuana cannot be replicated in a placebo, and thus prevents such an experiment from being conducted.

    The debate and controversy surrounding the use of medicinal marijuana is expected to continue until a successful compromise between researchers and proponents is reached.


    Be good, peace and many kudos
    i am so sick of people saying that is has no medicinal values and prohibiting its' use for patiens who need it, if it had no value then why is the U.S. government supplying 6 patients in the states with cannabis monthly? why are their conditions getting better? simple as that

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    #14
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    Medicinal use YES OR NO

    Plainly, marijuana can make you feel better. No matter if you're sick, or if you're just a bit heated because you had a shitty day, you should be able to smoke a joint if you want to. Scientific studies show next to no negative effects from it, and rather it be intended for medicinal use or not, it should be accepted as a recreational substance. In the mornings, a few times a week I throw up stomach acid, and feel like complete shit. At first I tried to avoid smoking as I thought it was the cause of this, but after I get a smoke in the morning, I feel fine and ready for school or work. It's something that isn't toxic to your body, nor is it rejected by your body..as is alcohol especially. Smoke it up

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    #15
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    Medicinal use YES OR NO

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Hanks
    i am so sick of people saying that is has no medicinal values and prohibiting its' use for patiens who need it, if it had no value then why is the U.S. government supplying 6 patients in the states with cannabis monthly? why are their conditions getting better? simple as that
    bush senior dick shut the program down because drugs are bad and alcohol is just fucking dandy. With cannabis legal, they wouldn't be the fking world police, and it then could not work. So they constantly avoid this issue because it's more important for the little guys(us) to work our asses off and to only consume substances that are going to benefit them and other big fucking corporations. This shit will end one day. We'll have our freedom with this plant sometime and until then, educate others and thank the government for sucking at preventing plant matter from being grown and consumed by we gentle stoners.

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    #16
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    Medicinal use YES OR NO

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Masta
    No. None of us have any need for it and it doesen't improve upon any current medical treatment available. Everyone who smoked marijuana, does it to get high, plain and simple.

    Anyone actually expecting to legalize marijuana based off medical uses are in for a huge disappointment. Its not going to happen and the DEA has already made that pretty clear.. Thats not to say I agree with them AT ALL, but their authority far outweighs the illegal pot smoking community.

    Now on the other hand, a benefit of information about medical marijuana, leads to an enlightened view on the "drug", rather than a lot of the previous marijuana propoganda going around in the past. This helps to get a good word around for the herb, as majority rules, and as soon as such a high amount of the population smokes it, then serious things will start changing since it will finally be accepted in society.
    To tell you the truth, I got really, really angry reading that post, but I can't blame your ignorance. I recently have been diagnosed with cancer and have been hocked up on morphine, and dahila for days. Painkillers that come with nasty side effects such as Nausea, Constipation, Appetite loss, and a constant feeling of being sick. To treat the Nausea, they gave me an IV of anti-nausea medication, which didn't do jack shit. They apparently have a medicine for every ailment, but one after another, it comes with a different side effect that makes my pain worse.

    Now since marijuana is a pain-killer, I don't see why it has no medicinal value. I have no doubt in my mind if I had marijuana instead, I wouldn't be having such painful side effects. I wouldn't be constipated, I wouldn't have Nausea, I would be eating properly, I wouldn't feel so goddamn sick.

    The truth of the matter is marijuana would make many of the drugs on the hospital obsolete and rendered useless. I'm convinced. After all, at the moment, I have private consultants deciding what drugs are best for me. The truth of the matter is, marijuana or hashish could and will do more wonders for me than Morphine, Fentanyl, Dahlia, Ibuprofin, or anything they came come up with.

    To say it wouldn't improve my current medical condition is really insulting, and I understand what medical marijuana patients go through now. It's amazing the new perspective gained after contracting a life-threatening disease.
    Happiness only real when shared

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    #17
    Senior Member

    Medicinal use YES OR NO

    i think it really is sad the way the government does these things... saying stuff like "medical marijuana is a myth created by potheads to try to get this terrible thing legalized"....all the lies and such... just makes me sad
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    #18
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    Medicinal use YES OR NO

    Quote Originally Posted by thcbongman
    To tell you the truth, I got really, really angry reading that post, but I can't blame your ignorance. I recently have been diagnosed with cancer and have been hocked up on morphine, and dahila for days. Painkillers that come with nasty side effects such as Nausea, Constipation, Appetite loss, and a constant feeling of being sick. To treat the Nausea, they gave me an IV of anti-nausea medication, which didn't do jack shit. They apparently have a medicine for every ailment, but one after another, it comes with a different side effect that makes my pain worse.

    Now since marijuana is a pain-killer, I don't see why it has no medicinal value. I have no doubt in my mind if I had marijuana instead, I wouldn't be having such painful side effects. I wouldn't be constipated, I wouldn't have Nausea, I would be eating properly, I wouldn't feel so goddamn sick.

    The truth of the matter is marijuana would make many of the drugs on the hospital obsolete and rendered useless. I'm convinced. After all, at the moment, I have private consultants deciding what drugs are best for me. The truth of the matter is, marijuana or hashish could and will do more wonders for me than Morphine, Fentanyl, Dahlia, Ibuprofin, or anything they came come up with.

    To say it wouldn't improve my current medical condition is really insulting, and I understand what medical marijuana patients go through now. It's amazing the new perspective gained after contracting a life-threatening disease.
    Right on, man... I hear you. When I was diagnosed with cancer and started chemo, I tried their litany of drugs. They do nothing but stop the action of vomiting (at least for me), as I still couldn't eat and barely get up to walk to the bathroom. After weighing the pro's and con's (I had oral cancer... freak thing... don't smoke, don't drink, etc.) of smokeing and the small chance of getting an infection (esp. from chemo-weakened immune system...) I caved in and toked. And I still remember that time as my experience as a truly medicinal user. I've used it before in the past for insomnia, various mood disorders, etc... and I hadn't had any for some time recreationally... and I have to say... I did not get "high" like I used to. The chemo had my body so completely fucked, that the cannabis actually made me "equalize" to some way, and I was able to eat something and even go grociery shopping. I have since now invested in a vaporizer for my health... I guess it wouldn't make since to smoke and add more carcinogens, especially while already having cancer. I believe Jack Herer says something to the extent of
    "Cannabis can make the difference between someone dying of cancer, and someone living with cancer."

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    #19
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    Medicinal use YES OR NO

    The whole point of the medical movement needs to be having it rescheduled from Schedule 1 to Schedule 2. As Schedule 1 doctors are not allowed to prescribe or research it. This list includes drugs such as LSD. With a Schedule 2 designation doctors can prescribe and research it. This list includes heroin and cocaine, two obviously much more dangerous drugs. As for those who think marijuana is only for pain and glaucome you REALLY need to read this article.

    New Study Explains How Pot Kills Cancer Cells
    By Steve Kubby

    A new study published in Nature Reviews-Cancer provides an historic and detailed explanation about how THC and natural cannabinoids counteract cancer, but preserve normal cells.

    The study by Manuel Guzmán of Madrid Spain found that cannabinoids, the active components of marijuana, inhibit tumor growth in laboratory animals. They do so by modulating key cell-signalling pathways, thereby inducing direct growth arrest and death of tumor cells, as well as by inhibiting the growth of blood vessels that supply the tumor.

    The Guzman study is very important according to Dr. Ethan Russo , a neurologist and world authority on medical cannabis: "Cancer occurs because cells become immortalized; they fail to heed normal signals to turn off growth. A normal function of remodelling in the body requires that cells die on cue. This is called apoptosis, or programmed cell death. That process fails to work in tumors. THC promotes its reappearance so that gliomas, leukemias, melanomas and other cell types will in fact heed the signals, stop dividing, and die."

    "But, that is not all," explains Dr. Russo: "The other way that tumors grow is by ensuring that they are nourished: they send out signals to promote angiogenesis, the growth of new blood vessels. Cannabinoids turn off these signals as well. It is truly incredible, and elegant."

    In other words, this article explains several ways in which cannabinoids might be used to fight cancer, and, as the article says, "Cannabinoids are usually well tolerated, and do not produce the generalized toxic effects of conventional chemotherapies.

    Usually, any story that even suggests the possibility of a new treatment for cancer is greeted with headlines about a "cancer cure" - however remote in the future and improbable in fact it might be. But if marijuana is involved, don't expect any coverage from mainstream media, especially since mainstream editors have been quietly killing this story for the past thirty years.

    That's right, news about the abilility of pot to shrink tumors first surfaced, way back in 1974. Researchers at the Medical College of Virginia, who had been funded by the National Institutes of Health to find evidence that marijuana damages the immune system, found instead that THC slowed the growth of three kinds of cancer in mice -- lung and breast cancer, and a virus-induced leukemia.

    The Washington Post reported on the 1974 study -- in the "Local" section -- on Aug. 18, 1974. Under the headline, "Cancer Curb Is Studied," it read in part: "The active chemical agent in marijuana curbs the growth of three kinds of cancer in mice and may also suppress the immunity reaction that causes rejection of organ transplants, a Medical College of Virginia team has discovered." The researchers "found that THC slowed the growth of lung cancers, breast cancers, and a virus-induced leukemia in laboratory mice, and prolonged their lives by as much as 36 percent."

    "News coverage of the Madrid discovery has been virtually nonexistent in this country. The news broke quietly on Feb. 29, 2000 with a story that ran once on the UPI wire about the Nature Medicine article," complained MarijuanaNews.com editor Richard Cowan , who said he was only able to find the article through a link that appeared briefly on the Drudge Report Web page. "The New York Times, The Washington Post, and Los Angeles Times all ignored the story, even though its newsworthiness is indisputable: a benign substance occurring in nature destroys deadly brain tumors," added Cowan.

    On March 29, 2001, the San Antonio Current printed a carefully researched, bombshell of a story by Raymond Cushing titled, "POT SHRINKS TUMORS; GOVERNMENT KNEW IN '74." Media coverage since then has been nonexistant, except for a copy of the story on Alternet .

    It is hard to believe that the knowledge that cannabis can be used to fight cancer has been suppressed for almost thirty years , yet it seems likely that it will continue to be suppressed. Why?

    According to Cowan, the answer is because it is a threat to cannabis prohibition . "If this article and its predecessors from 2000 and 1974 were the only evidence of the suppression of medical cannabis, then one might perhaps be able to rationalize it in some herniated way. However, there really is massive proof that the suppression of medical cannabis represents the greatest failure of the institutions of a free society, medicine, journalism, science, and our fundamental values," Cowan notes.

    Millions of people have died horrible deaths and in many cases, familes exhausted their savings on dangerous, toxic and expensive drugs. Now we are just beginning to realize that while marijuana has never killed anyone, marijuana prohibition has killed millions.

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    #20
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    Medicinal use YES OR NO

    It boggles my mind that it has been 10 years since California passed medical mj laws. There are still a handful of patients receiving their cans full of joints rolled with so/so pot from the feds every month. If it was so harmful would the feds still be sending it out to those folks who were approved to take it back when the feds did look into it? The Dutch are still the only ones who have it right. The Canadians seem to have some good laws, but there is still so much controvery up there that folks still are not safe. Safer, but not safe!

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