Again thanks guys, i have noticed the postman and mobay tagging up the info for everyone together, this is the type of stuff we need though for the beginners like me, H3o i hear you i mean i do construction on the side but right wo i'm in a situation that i didn't prefer to be in, in the first place and if it was found that i had girls growin in the attic then......well lets just say that i may not be welcome there anymore or would have to have one good excuse to what the hell is going on ha ha, Mobay that pic can make anyones mouth water, fromthe loks of the plant in th back right it looks like that's in FL or the carrebian (sp) Again thanks guys will def be around learning even more from these experts here!

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