what do yall think?( pics)

[th3bigbad]

hey yall, its my first time growin and i just thought id see what yall think. if you guys see anything im doing wrong or have any advice feel free to tell me. it will not be wasted. im learning as i go so any help or tips are more than welcome.

th3bigbad Reviewed by th3bigbad on 06-08-2006. what do yall think?( pics) hey yall, its my first time growin and i just thought id see what yall think. if you guys see anything im doing wrong or have any advice feel free to tell me. it will not be wasted. im learning as i go so any help or tips are more than welcome. Rating: 5

[Aaron385]

NICE.. how old are those?

[th3bigbad]

thanx aaron these are all 51 days in those pics.and just schwag bag seeds.

[Aaron385]

Thats sweet.. I hope mine get that big at day 51..

Im doing it for the first time and I should have gone with soil like you..

I thought I could get all fancy with hydroponics and I am just not getting the results that I should.. Im at about 2 weeks and the best two only have a few leafs, only about 3" tall. I think I fed them nutes too early. One of them is dying and the last two are just runt looking. And these are premium seedbank seeds.. one of which is somewhere in the long ass carpet in my livingroom (i.e. dont try to stick seeds in rockwool cubes over carpet.. learned that lesson real quick).

[th3bigbad]

damn man lol sorry to hear about MIA seed. i dont know anything about growing hydro., but ive learned that the is no way around getting enough light. mine where about 5" before i got enough light and the leaves looked like dust. they where small and really really weak. i had to tie mine to tooth picks to hold them up. i got some good lighting and they just shot up and got way stronger. i just started to flower mine at 4' cuz i didnt know any better. lol i just learned they get 2 to 3 times bigger as they bud. my grow space is way to small for that so i started LST mine. im ordering some seedbank seeds next week. im thinkin white widow and purple haze. if i get them growing good ill strt hydro. with cuttings. if you have any tips about hydro let me know. im going to use a homemade drip setup i read about.

[Torog]

Thats sweet.. I hope mine get that big at day 51..

Im doing it for the first time and I should have gone with soil like you..

I thought I could get all fancy with hydroponics and I am just not getting the results that I should.. Im at about 2 weeks and the best two only have a few leafs, only about 3" tall. I think I fed them nutes too early. One of them is dying and the last two are just runt looking. And these are premium seedbank seeds.. one of which is somewhere in the long ass carpet in my livingroom (i.e. dont try to stick seeds in rockwool cubes over carpet.. learned that lesson real quick).

Howdy Aaron,

Yup..soil is way more forgiving,than hydro is,with hydro,you have to maintain strict parameters on the ph and the plants react more and faster,with mistakes made with hydro. You probably did give them nutes too early and if yer ph was too high,they wouldn't even be able to uptake those nutes to begin with.

When first learning how to grow,you shouldn't use high-priced seeds unless you can afford to lose them,yet,on the other hand,having seeds with good genetics,is very important,they have better structure,higher levels of thc,and are more disease and pest resistant.

When I first started learning how to grow,I used bag-seeds and I learned alot about what the plants need and how to make them thrive. Then I aquired some good genetics and saw the difference right away. The hardest strains for new growers,are the sativa dominate strains,hybrids and indicas are easier to grow and finish alot sooner than sativas do. White widow and Purple haze,ain't the easier strains to grow,I've heard tell,that WW can be finicky and I believe that PH is a sativa dominant strain,so you may not be satisfied with the yield or the buds,which tend to be more airey and less dense,because it's a sativa.

You should pose yer questions in the grow section,there are some very knowledgeable growers here.

Have a good one ! :stoned:

[Aaron385]

Thanks for the info torog, I am all over the grow section I promise! They have helped and I have been able to help a few as well..

As for the seeds I am using an indica strain.. supposidly the "easiest to grow" and very high THC levels.. but its a new unestablished strain that has yet to win any awards so it wasnt too steep. Im trying some voodo majic with LEDs to keep um fem.

Im almost starting to like hydroponics.. almost.. I have some veggies I am growing in another hydroponic rig that just took the hell off.. gowing inches a day.. unbelieveable under two cfl's. The money crop if you will is about two weeks behind the veggies so I have my fingers crossed.

The main theme I hope is that I have gotten past the front door of hydroponics with minimal losses and from what I hear its pretty much smooth sailing from here.. again.. fingers crossed!

th3- def build it yourself.. if you like to tinker that is.. because you will save money and have fun doing it.. I have one rig that was store bought and another that I built.. I like the one i built more and I wont buy another store rig again. Just read read read and then read some more... do everything exactly the way everyone else did it and dont improvise.. if I followed that advice right there I would have had a much easier time with it!

Oh... and buy the best of everything (within reason) the first time.. SOOO many people lose whole crops because of $7 walmart timers going bad or something STUPID like that.. I learned real fast to stick with good supplies.. and as I build my 6l x 6w x 8h flower room this week I will try and keep that in mind as well! Will try to automate ph control soon so the room wont even need daily checks.. shootin for 95% automation with the 5% being water changeout every 2 weeks and CO2 refills. Wish me luck!!

[th3bigbad]

hey torog thanx for the info on ww i really havent read much on the strain yet. i just smoked some and really liked it. i am sure ill read up and get the seeds i "think and hope" ill be able to grow. i need sumthiong that takes the heat well as im growing in a old barn. its less than ideal but is working so far.

and thanx aaron for the tip about wally world timers "i have 2 now that ill be watching more closely thanx 2 u".lol your space and mine are the same size. ill tell ya give ya the run down on my set up. ive got 6lX6wX8h room at the end of an old barn out back. ive got a 4'X4' whole in the roof covered by clear plastic and 10 4' floros for side lights. all the walls are covered by mylar and ive got 3 intake fans under the barn pushing cool air in and 3 fans sucking the hot out the top.the big prob i have is with heat [105 is the highest its been and down to 70], but im going to put in a small a/c ive got and ditch the 3 intake fans. ive got an old garage door opener on a timer to close the roof with that just installed last week,,"works like a charm so far". the plants are in direct sun from 7am until 7pm. im all about the automation. lol i try to spray the plants with water every morning and on tue and fri i folar feed. yall have to let me know who youve got your hydro setup and how it works when you get done with it. anyway i gota go thanx and good luck

[Aaron385]

What is the garage door opener for? light timing?

Sounds like you will like hydroponics.. but it will be frustrating at first.. start reading up on it now..

I have two of wally's finest digital timers that I set exactly to the same second a week ago that are now a couple minutes apart!! yea.. DIGITAL lost two minutes in a freakn week?? Thanks walmart.. I now get supplies at lowes or home depot.. bypass wally world cuz its not worth the savings when the savings dont work.

I actually got two other digital timers from a pet store (supposed to be used with automatic feeders) and over the same week they are now almost 2 seconds apart.. not quite two seconds.. but more than one second.. I can live with that I guess.. but freakn A 2 minutes deviance in 1 week?? How long would that leave my 1000 watt hps light running without a fan going after a few weeks?? enough to kill.. damn you wally!

Oh and while you are reading start gathering your supplies.. some you can use with your setup now.. like CO2.. I just scored a digital CO2 controller brand new in box of e/bay (like the kind that sell in hydro shops for $500) for $32.50!! My 1000 watt hps came from a police auction (confiscated goods.. imagine that).. I got it for $40!! Im going to put that bad boy right back to good use You can do this shit cheap just dont get in a rush.. start reading and collecting supplies now for when you switch over. Keep a watchful eye for things that you could use.

[thcbuz]

hey arron385,you can piggyback the fan and light on the same timer and not worry about to much amp draw on the timer.that way your fan and light come on and go off simultaneously.your ballast will draw less than 7 amps and your fan less than or around 3 amps.you've still got 5 amps on that breaker for other outlets.also the amp draw is always highest just at ignition of the lamp,then the amp draw goes down.good luck,ThcBuz