Quote Originally Posted by birdgirl73
There are lots of folks who believe the way Ganja does and don't like the current fashionable pharma antidepressants, and I'm sure he's right that in some cases missing dietary compounds are to blame. I've checked my B-vitamins and folates to make sure that's not the case with me. He's also right that there are people who respond to dietary changes, too.

But I've also seen antidepressants work well for lots of folks as well.

I'm going to try your nutritional recommendation, Ganja, and see if that works before I go the prescription route. I'd love to avoid the side effects of the antidepressants. I also need to exercise more frequently than twice a week; I already know that.



We must have been responding to this at the same time. By the time I hit "submit reply" your response was already there, so appologies if we had a difference in opinion about the matter at that same moment.

The ascorbic acid, DHA, and Protein supplement works well. Sometimes the ascorbic alone is fine. It can work rapidy within 30-40 minutes. The feeling is light and barely noticeable.

Avoid taking it with sugared products or refined white products as insulin blocks ascorbic uptake. Non sugared orange juice works well.

I take 10 grams a day for general health reasons.

Of course its water soluble and out of your system within hours, which is the reason for dividing the doses in the day. Ascorbic plasma levels take 24 hours to multiply and plasma levels last about 30 days. Its the plasma levels that a person should keep maintained.

These plasma levels drop rapidly in disease states, smoking, stress etc.

Ive spent considerable time in study of ascorbic acid. At least a year. It serves many functions of physiological make up of the human body.
Strengthening arteries, conversion of amino acids in the brain, lymphocytes, collagen, stress, heroine withdrawl treatment and more.

Problem is that humans, primates, guinea pigs and fruit bats are the only mammals on the planet who cant synthesize it in the liver due to an evolutionary defect of the loss of 1 in 3 enzymes in the liver. Thought to have occured due to early migration patterns evolutionary eating patterns and changes in the environment.

All Reptiles synthesize ascorbic in the kidneys. So external sources are mandatory for humans.

Dogs and cats produce easily measured amounts in the urine when sick and/or under stress. This is how they can eat dirty things off the ground and not get sick. This ability declines as they age.


Most know the early British sailors and Antarctic explorers were the first to realize this without a citrus source. Many things will start to happen to the body within 100 days, and death follows in about 160 days without ascorbic.
Depression, skin infections, etc, etc. (AKA acute induced scurvy).

Many people are in acute induce scurvy states and dont know it due to the typical refined diet, hence the cause of "chemical imbalance". Turning to antibiotics or depression meds is not always the answer to simple problems.

The usrda of 500mg. is far too low and many humanitarian scientists, including the late Linus Pauling know that this is only meant to keep a person above that threshold of scurvy. We know why that value is kept low for a reason. This is a threat to the multi-billion dollar pharm industry. Of course things which cant be patented are not profitable and therefore not discussed. Most mainstreams docs are regulated by usdra in what they can talk about. Talk of higher is forbidden.

Yet spill over in the kidneys, like all mammals do in nature for survival is neccessary.

Many Doctors have stood by and let patients die of pneumonia or sepsis saying there is nothing more that could be done when this is totally false.


Immediate intervention with combinations of ascorbic and sodium ascorbate acid is the only way to stop this. 90 percent of hospitals dont use it and the 10 percent that due use the watered down version which is not very effective. The best form is mixed from scratch as Dr. Cathcart gives instructions in doing.

There is no pharm product available that will fuel the bodies lymphocytes and reduce phagocytosis oxidized free radicals like nature intended.

Ascorbic acid/ sodium ascorbate acid is a powerful biological reducing agent as well and is the best way to keep the body out of an oxidized state due to fighting disease, especially fast moving free radical diseases such as, pneumonia, bird flu, ebola, west nile, etc, etc. It doesnt matter as they all work the same way in how they overwhelm the immune system. Some vary with symptoms such as internal hemorrage.

It is the only molecule that carries an additional electron to act as a reducing agent. Oxidized molecules left over from phagocytosis in fighting a disease can cause more destruction in body tissue cells. Oxidized molecules are electron deficient and seek that electron from other healthy cells in the body.

Ascorbic/Ascorbate reduces the oxidized molecules while simultaneously fueling lymphocytes. It is the only molecule that can do this. Lymphocyte activity is directly porportional to the amount of ascorbic acid plasma available. This makes it easy to understand how a free radical cascade based disease moves rapidly through the body killing its host.

If you want to know how to stop the bird flu and other free radical cascade based diseases using ascorbic acid and/or sodium ascorbate injections to bring lymphocytes out in full force. see below.

Bird flu vaccines are not effective and have killed more than the disease itself thus far.

I keep all supplies on hand, sodium ascorbate, ascorbic acid, I.V. bag etc. etc. mixing directions. All simple easily attainable supplies. You only need to know how to give an injection properly or know someone who can if an emergency should arise.




Robert Cathcart. Orthomed. (use search box) (scroll till you get to "bird flu")
Bottom of page you should find supply list for I.V. and how to mix. He is very knowledgble and has treated over 40,000 patients.

These I.V. sodium ascorbate techniques have been around since the 50s and were used to cure polio victims. (Dr. Klenner)



Doses are high using bowel tollerance doses of ascorbic, but works great.
I took out a bad case of pneumonia in 24hrs using his methods. A little less than 200 grams in 24 hrs. Its based on the severity of the disease.

You must learn the techniques to know what your doing. 400 I.U. of vitamin E is neccessary to keep the red blood cells strong while doing this.


A persistant sore throat can be taken out in a matter of minutes with 6 grams ascorbic acid with bioflavinoids, mixed in about 6 oz. ounces of oj until it forms a thick juice. It will cling to the thoat and kill the strep bacteria on contact as it is a bacteriostat invivo and invitro. Wash down with several glass of water in about 15 minutes.
Works great where many cough drops and syrups are totally ineffective.

Ascorbic is the least toxic substance on the planet and does not become toxic until doses as high as 500 grams are reached.

Its usually the people that question its safety that are the ones with multiple grams of mercury fillings in their mouth. The most toxic substance on the planet.



Oh well I am kinda going off on a tangent here.

Have a good one.