Quote Originally Posted by newactivist
Ok, stoners. Same thing...

A manufactured and expensive fix for a manufactured problem, like our War on Terror. It has been true since Anslinger and the DEA still does it today to justify their power and budgets.

1) Minors- Will always come to or try the forbidden. Human nature has always done that. We usually grow out of it.

2) Hatemongers- They're everywhere. If you notice most of them get shot down here. Hard to take away freedom of speech though.

3) Internet dealers- Huh? nobody is stupid enough to sell drugs from this site! The only people who would purchase is cops, who are on this site in force, make no doubt. I guess they would also sell it here to catch what are probably young adults too inexperienced to see the trap, thereby giving them a criminal record for the rest of their lives.

4) Other drug threads- As long as marijuana is illegal it will continue to be lumped with more dangerous chemicals. Have you seen other threads, for Budweiser maybe?

Tell you what? You stick up for my freedoms and I'll stick up for yours. We can do that if we can stay civil with each other.
They may be the same but I never said "everyone" was a stoner either. I'm talking about the ones that give people a bad impression about those that use mj.

Execpt the WOT wasn't manufctured, it was just finally treated as a war instead of a crime problem. I'll remind you that Anslinger was a democrat, appointed by a democrat president who testified to a democrat controlled legislature who passed the mj tax act of 1937. It was a democrat controlled congress that wrote and passed the controlled substances act of 1970 with a veto-proof margin. More recently it was the liberal justices on the SCOTUS that voted against Raich. It's time that somkers understand that to win hearts and minds, to change the laws by rescheduling, the hate rhetoric has to go away.

1) The problem isn't that they come but that they're allowed to come. Condoning such behavour, with the excuse that they'll come anyway, is the same as dealing to kids in the eyes of our opponents. They should be banned, immediately. While they will come back at least we can point to a rule that says they're not welcome, mj is for adults only. All sales to minors should stop. If you sometimes smoke a j with a minor, STOP. Once minors are ostersized from the mj community, we show that we're indeed responsible users.

2) They don't have to be allowed to post their hate here. You haven't read the forums here, much, have you? Most of the threads are hate Bush/republican/America threads. I bet the anti-mj people are real impressed with hate spews (often aimed at them) on a mj site. Yeah, that'll win support.

3) Again, read the forums...while it's not smart, whever said the members here were all smart? People get busted all of the time doing stupid stuff, it only reinforces the "pothead" stereotypes and drives away support.

4) Agian, just because it happens doesn't mean it should be tollerated. We need to change the image of mj users, not reinforce them. This is a mj site, there's no reason to go off topic with "other drug" threads. If you think that anti-mj ppl reading a thread, here, about how completely drunk some dumbass got last weekend doesn't hurt our image, you're mistaken.

Either you're part of the solution or your part of the problem. Unfortunately, *many* of the members here are part of the problem.

Really, you'd stick up for my Right to Keep and Bear Arms? Most of the liberals here wouldn't. Funny how that works, isn't it? They think they have rights that they don't and piss on real rights of others. What right(s), of yours, should I be sticking up for, that I'm not already sticking up for?