The Draft

[graymatter]

You oppose the freedom to choose to serve or not and support the liberal facist draft bills and have the nerve to bash President Bush? Oh my... Just what kind of freedom ARE you for? Is it just the freedom to bitch and moan while smoking a joint or wouldn't it be better to support more individual rights instead of supporting leftist oppression?

OK, I'm only going to respond to you one more time. You ignored my original question: Define what Liberal Slavery is? I'm really interested in what that looks like...

[birdgirl73]

Actually, my mission from the "National Liberal Society" is to spread vermin filled Liberalism through my rhetorical wand and turn everyone into whoremongering, war protesting, freedom haters. Once that's accomplished I will dispatch my pro-choice minions to eat Pat Robertson...

Oooh, you're wicked, GrayMatter. I like that.

I have an unkind Pat Robertson fantasy. And it's my mission to share it. In it, Pat is piloting the next jet owned by his organzation to go down, killing the pilot and his co-passenger, who is Jerry Falwell. The fantasy jet would go down this season in the worst hurricane ever on record, something far out in the Atlantic that won't hurt anybody else. Brother Pat will be cemeted forever as a wise and brilliant weather prophet. His estate and the fortunes of CBN will go to the pro-choice and pro-national-health care movements. Brother Jerry's fortunes will go to gay-lesbian-friendly and environmental causes, particularly global warming.

Legions of thinking, caring people throughout the world will rejoice.

[iamapatient]

And if you think the U.S. Government communicates respect for its veterans effectively I just got my letter from the V.A. acknowledging their "mishap" with data security. They basically say, "dude, we had no other way of contacing you and millions of others except through the Internal Revenue Service..."

I haven't got mine yet. Maybe I wasn't affected. [/wishfull thinking] Other than that I'm mostly (not completely) satisfied with the treatment I've received as a disabled vet and I've even been asked to participate in focus groups on VA services.

OK, I'm only going to respond to you one more time. You ignored my original question: Define what Liberal Slavery is? I'm really interested in what that looks like...

I must have missed that. Not exactly "liberal slavery," I think we were talking about "socialist slavery" and anytime socialism is implemented individual freedoms are trampled. Hence the analogy to slavery. You no longer have a choice, you're forced. That's the immoral system, socialism. Which is more moral, a capitalist who willingly donate to charities that they support or a socialist government forcing you to work to pay for the benefit of somebody that you owe no debt to nor have done any wrong to? You do understand that Lincoln freed the slaves, not because he had jungle fever but because he understood that it was wrong to force the slaves to work for other people's gain. The history of socialism and it's evil offspring communism, shows that the systems are fundementally flawed because humans want to be free. Socialists hate capitalism because it provides an alternative to liberal oppression and control.

[birdgirl73]

I'm going to get it in a big way from IAM for those my admittedly rather sick fantasy. He's gonna shake in fury, raise his fist at the devil, and call me a kiddie name!!

[graymatter]

Oooh, you're wicked, GrayMatter. I like that.

I have an unkind Pat Robertson fantasy. And it's my mission to share it. In it, Pat is piloting the next jet owned by his organzation to go down, killing the pilot and his co-passenger, who is Jerry Falwell. The fantasy jet would go down this season in the worst hurricane ever on record, something far out in the Atlantic that won't hurt anybody else. Brother Pat will be cemeted forever as a wise and brilliant weather prophet. His estate and the fortunes of CBN will go to the pro-choice and pro-national-health care movements. Brother Jerry's fortunes will go to gay-lesbian-friendly and environmental causes, particularly global warming.

Legions of thinking, caring people throughout the world will rejoice.

LOL... Oh, yeah, now you're talking! And Jerry Falwell, too! I hope the donation checks have cleared, of course... Or, maybe the National Liberal Society can take over his Thomasville Road Baptist Church (and tele-following) and hold the Sunday coffers hostage until the Fascist Liberal causes are adequetaly funded ... Peace

[iamapatient]

If predictions are your hobby, don't quit your day job. If you're a fortune teller, seek new employment.

[birdgirl73]

I went to services at the Thomasville Road church about 10 years ago with my Virginia cousins! I seriously did. I wanted to see it in action. They, of course, wanted my soul to feel the effects of fundamentalist fever. It was fascinating, I must say.

And I hate to brag but I once also sat in the same Don's Seafood Restaurant in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, with Jimmy Swaggart sitting two tables over.

I mean to tell you, I've had brushes with holy greatness.

Also with the political kind on two sides. On vacation four years ago, my husband and I met Janet Reno, standing in the rental car place at the airport in Key West when we were flying out to return to Miami and come home. We shook hands with her. And my husband claims she looked at my rear end as we walked away. That was as close as I wanted that brush to get.
On the right side, I got to shake hands once at at stockholder's meeting in Dallas with both Dick Cheney and Jim Baker, who were there as members of the board at a company's stockholder meeting where I'd written one of the executive speeches.

Greatness comes in lots of forms. I'll often just settle for seeing famous folks. Even when I don't agree with them politically, I'm sorta starstruck. And I confess that I very much respect their right to their own, differing opinions. I work with lots of very conservative folks and have lived in Texas for most of my life, so I'm comfortable with them. I'd have to be!

[graymatter]

I haven't got mine yet. Maybe I wasn't affected. [/wishfull thinking] Other than that I'm mostly (not completely) satisfied with the treatment I've received as a disabled vet and I've even been asked to participate in focus groups on VA services.



I must have missed that. Not exactly "liberal slavery," I think we were talking about "socialist slavery" and anytime socialism is implemented individual freedoms are trampled. Hence the analogy to slavery. You no longer have a choice, you're forced. That's the immoral system, socialism. Which is more moral, a capitalist who willingly donate to charities that they support or a socialist government forcing you to work to pay for the benefit of somebody that you owe no debt to nor have done any wrong to? You do understand that Lincoln freed the slaves, not because he had jungle fever but because he understood that it was wrong to force the slaves to work for other people's gain. The history of socialism and it's evil offspring communism, shows that the systems are fundementally flawed because humans want to be free. Socialists hate capitalism because it provides an alternative to liberal oppression and control.

Thanks for keeping it cival... Lincoln was perhaps our greatest president and it's not primarily because he freed the slaves. He served to preserve the Union and he died for it. John Wilkes Booth didn't shoot him because he freed slaves.

The reason I despise the Bush administration is that they got EVERYTHING wrong... War, Gays, Taxes, Patriot Act, Homeland Security, Faith Based Initiatives. They took an opportunity to unite the world and squandered it on the notion that U.S. corporate interests could shape the world, while religious interests could shape the courts and the legislature... Well, 90% of the world thinks we're stupid and dangerous, and 65% of Americans are now wondering the same.

How free were the workers in the capitalism of the early to mid 1900's? Troops and Corporate hired militia to quell socialist dissent????

[graymatter]

I went to services at the Thomasville Road church about 10 years ago with my Virginia cousins! I seriously did. I wanted to see it in action. They, of course, wanted my soul to feel the effects of fundamentalist fever. It was fascinating, I must say.

But you gotta love the Blue Ridge area!!! I've been there as well... the locals tolerate Falwell like a demented uncle.

[birdgirl73]

That is indeed a beautiful, beautiful part of the country. I'd like to live there someday. My ancestors came into the U.S. through that part of the country some 300 year ago.