Quote Originally Posted by Fengzi
I've mentioned this before but I'll say it again.

Forty or so years ago my marraige would have been illegal in some (Southern) States. You see, I'm White and my wife is Chinese. It wasn't until 1967 that the Supreme Court declared laws against mixed-race marraiges unconstitutional. Those in favor of the laws used many of the same arguments that those against gay marraiges use today: "Against God's plan", "Against Nature", etc etc.

Personally, I'm not religious and don't believe in God, so I don't really give a rat's ass if someone's marraige is "against God's plan" . I would be seriously pissed if some Bible thumping fucknut told me I couldn't get married because God didn't mean for Whites and Asians to mix.

For many, many people marraige is a legal issue and not a religious issue. Just ask the IRS, INS, or dozens of other government organizations. I wasn't married by the Church. I was married by the City of Shanghai China. Our government, however, recognizes my marraige as valid. We are considered to be maried. Not to have a civil union or whatever they call it now.

So, any religious arguments against gay marraige are simply bull shit. If a church doesn't want to perform a gay marraige, or kick out gay congregation members-fine. But that shouldn't stop the government from recognizing and performing gay marraiges.

When I was engaged to my wife a lot of people asked my why I wanted to marry a Chinese girl. I told them "I don't want to marry a Chinese girl, I want to marry the woman I fell in love with". I imagine ots the same thing with gays. they just want to marrybthe person they fell in love with. Who are we to tell them no?
Nice post Fengzi..just one thing..some of us do give more than a rats ass about OUR beliefs..its ironic that believers are shunned and labeled because of our beliefs but when we stand our ground on our principles we are labeled..well you and others do the same damn thing when we don't agree with issues such as this...I don't really matter into the grand scheme of laws and politics but I am an individual that has certain beliefs and should not be told that my beliefs are bs anymore than I should tell you your beliefs on homosexual rights is bs..because if thats the way of things..then I do say it ..its morally wrong imo and I get sick of being told I have to agree with homosexuality or I am full of hate! Thats one of the major things wrong with this world now..whatever anyone desires they have a right to it..yeah..at what cost? Also I get sick of hearing about the damn South on this issue..lets post some of the most stupid in effect laws that the NE still has on their books for a change..they are there. You call us bible thumping fucknuts..don't sterotype and expect others to show consideration toward you and yours when you don't dish it out. Your post made a convincing point up unto when you made it a personal issue about religion for ALL...I believe in God,Jesus Heaven & Hell but am far from being a fucknut..I could throw some degrading names out about non believers and sexually challenged folks but I don't make it personal..would be nice if hypocrites learned to do the same.