Bush calls for gay marriage ban

[Breukelen advocaat]

So Breukelen, do you really believe that last part--about it being the best thing? Or are you simply being a provacateur?

I certainly hope science doesn't completely take over the burden, as you call it, of producing children! I enjoyed the old-fashioned way of conception. Still do! And I just loved being pregnant. Wish it had happened easily for me so I could have had five or six more.

I'm not provoking anything, I'm just expressing my opinion - which is that the world isn't any better off because of the human race. We are an incredibly arrogant, and destructive, species of animal.

I don't doubt that you, and most other people, love having children. Eventually, there will be a limit as to how many they can produce. China has already started this.

Before we destroy the whole planet and everything on it, the human race should exit with dignity - and allow for the possibility of a better world, and more intelligent life, to develop. Of course, an unselfish act like this is beyond the scope of the human species' intelligence and ego.

[Breukelen advocaat]

[QUOTE=braddog10]Very good to see you my friend,
To attempt to clear up some confusion. Jesus (Quoted) was addressing a group of religious leaders that were under the perception that they had no sin. Jesus developed ~ expanded~ the origonal 10 comandments. You've murdered, if you have hated a brother~ Commited adultry, by looking at some gorgious chick and lusting after her.....etc...etc....

Haven't we all done this?... Of Coarse!!

If you don't mind, I hate to see people labor under a percieved bizzare excess .....from God that is not real.

Why in the universe would a supreme being create something as infernally obnoxious as the human race? For it's own amusement, or simply because it has an insatiable need to be complimented and worshipped? I don't happen to believe in any of this nonsense, and if it turns out to be true, and I'm given the opportunity, I will certainly ask this monster why it has created us.

[birdgirl73]

I'm not provoking anything, I'm just expressing my opinion - which is that the world isn't any better off because of the human race. We are an incredibly arrogant, and destructive, species of animal.

I don't doubt that you, and most other people, love having children. Eventually, there will be a limit as to how many they can produce. China has already started this.

Before we destroy the whole planet and everything on it, the human race should exit with dignity - and allow for the possibility of a better world, and more intelligent life, to develop. Of course, an unselfish act like this is beyond the scope of the human species' intelligence and ego.

I understand your expanded statement here much better. You're quite right that we've been awfully destructive to our world. And that to allow for the possibility of a better world would be an unimaginably unselfish act.

[braddog10]

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Why in the universe would a supreme being create something as infernally obnoxious as the human race? For it's own amusement, or simply because it has an insatiable need to be complimented and worshipped? I don't happen to believe in any of this nonsense, and if it turns out to be true, and I'm given the opportunity, I will certainly ask this monster why it has created us.[/QUOTE]



You make claims, such as "People are born atheist, and have to learn Deism".
Breuk, statements like this, can be thrown out, by eather side, But, I have difficulty seeing any relevance.

By your zeal and your links, I'd say your heavily programed, and now ~ blind to an awsome creation, Hows' your world working? Huh?...

Hows' your relationships?

How happy are you? how bout those around you?

Ask your self these questions. I allready know what the answers are.

I know plenty others.... Sad Freakin Existence.

[braddog10]

Those concerned, the first Para. above is Bruek, Quote.

Breuk your hypocracy, is no less than the religious hypocrites you criticize.

Just like the same piece of crap, rolled over on its other side, with a renewed stinch,..... both need to be flushed.

Enjoy your life.

[Breukelen advocaat]

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Why in the universe would a supreme being create something as infernally obnoxious as the human race? For it's own amusement, or simply because it has an insatiable need to be complimented and worshipped? I don't happen to believe in any of this nonsense, and if it turns out to be true, and I'm given the opportunity, I will certainly ask this monster why it has created us.

You make claims, such as "People are born atheist, and have to learn Deism".
Breuk, statements like this, can be thrown out, by eather side, But, I have difficulty seeing any relevance.

I did not say "Deism". It was "Theism". Most of the Founding Fathers were Deists, and did not take the Bible literally.

By your zeal and your links, I'd say your heavily programed, and now ~ blind to an awsome creation, Hows' your world working? Huh?...

The attemped religous programming of my youth did not work on me. My brain is not capable of processing nonsense, or responding to imaginary threats with fear.

My "world", as you put it, is fine, thank you - since I have been a rational thinker, as much as possible, for many years.

Hows' your relationships?

My "relationships" are fine - I'm happily married.

How happy are you? how bout those around you?

I'm happy enough, probably more than most people. Being happy is one of the most important aspects of life, IMO. Being "Blue" sometimes is inevitable; How you deal with it is what matters. Of course, the old saying that "ignorence is bliss" is still true. Unfortunatly, I'm not in that category.

Ask your self these questions. I allready know what the answers are.

I differ in that I do NOT know "the answers". I believe that it was Socrates who said something like, "I'm the smartest man in the world, because I know that I don't know anything'".

I know plenty others.... Sad Freakin Existence.[/QUOTE]

Yes, being a slave to a religous belief system IS a sad existence. Release your mind from it's shackles of beliefs and you too can experience freedom of thought.

Have a good W/E!

[braddog10]

Hey, Bruek,

A little deceptive aren't ya. Placing your sick statement, as if I wrote that.

I know you have a sick life, You folks sceam intolerance.
again, your own hypocracy,.... buddy, your shit stinks.

[Breukelen advocaat]

Hey, Bruek,

A little deceptive aren't ya. Placing your sick statement, as if I wrote that.

I know you have a sick life, You folks sceam intolerance.
again, your own hypocracy,.... buddy, your shit stinks.

No, I would not do that - my history of posting here goes way back, and proves that I've never done anything like that deliberatly. I just wasn't paying attention to the error - but anybody can just read the thread to see who said what anyway.

The only "sick" thing that I see is a constant barrage of quotes, as if they are worthwhile, from a book that has brought more misery to the human race than anything else man has created throughout history

And, make no mistake about this: NO religous book is "divine" - it is all the figment of human imagination. No man has ever communicated with a god, and never will. That is what the Founding Fathers believed - and if you say that I am "sick", then you can just as well say that Jefferson, T. Paine, Washington, and others were, as well.

[braddog10]

Breuk,

How is it that you insist on describing my neighborhood, insist it looks a certain way, and what the street lay out is, and have never been there.

You may believe that you have been exposed to Christianity, but, you know nothing of what I have observed and know to be true.

No one that is as jacked as you are, in their hatred of God, can go by and not have serious spiritual problems. Don't give me your line that you just don't believe. People don't get so wired over something like that. It is apparent that you have some major baggage.

To note that you immediately jumped in and attacked, on the thread "a fool believes in his heart that there is no God" on the spiritual forum. reveals some real problems. Have I ever initiated an attack on you?

You so readily quote the Bible, But, when it is explained in it's appropriate context, you get tweeked because ... Oh, God isn't so bad after all.

Well,.... We can't have that!

Live and let live.... please shelve your narcissism.

[braddog10]

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