dont let these hps nazis get you discouraged....I'm growing mine under floro and they look amazing.....bob bong did too...its all about the love....but yea go to home depot and get your self some of those $7 floro shop lights...they're four foot and you get a ton...i have like a wall of light in my grow room....you just gotta remember that because its weaker you're going to need more and they have to be CLOSE